With the way that things are heading in this country, it is not surprising that there are approximately 3 million preppers in the United States today. What is surprising is that there are not more people prepping. The economy is rapidly falling to pieces, the national debt is absolutely soaring, the earth is becoming increasingly unstable, a major war could erupt in the Middle East at any time and the fabric of our society is coming apart right in front of our eyes. We have become incredibly dependent on technology and we have become incredibly dependent on our economic system. If a major natural disaster, a killer pandemic, an EMPattack or the imposition of martial law caused a significant transportation disruption, America would literally change overnight. We live during a time of tremendous global instability, and yet most people still see no need to start prepping at all. Most people just continue to have blind faith in our leaders and in our system. But what happens if our leaders fail us? What happens if our system collapses? What are they going to do then?
The number of preppers in the United States today is steadily increasing, but the vast majority of people out there still see no reason to start getting ready for “the end of the world as we know it”. Most people just assume things will always somehow get better or that they will somehow be immune to whatever calamities are heading our way. Most people always seem to have a “good excuse” for why they do not need to prepare.
The following are the top 50 excuses for not prepping….
1. “The U.S. Economy Is The Greatest Economy On The Planet – There Is No Way That It Could Ever Collapse”
2. “Once Barack Obama Wins The Election Everything Will Be Better”
3. “Once Mitt Romney Wins The Election Everything Will Be Better”
4. “When Things Get Really Bad The Government Will Take Care Of Us”
5. “When Disaster Strikes I Will Just Steal From Everyone Else That Has Been Busy Preparing”
6. “The Rapture Will Be At Any Moment So I Don’t Have To Worry About Prepping”
7. “The Economy Has Always Recovered After Every Recession In The Past And This Time Will Be No Different”
8. “The People That Are Running Things Are Very Highly Educated And They Know Exactly What They Are Doing”
9. “Wal-Mart Will Always Be There”
10. “Our Politicians Are Watching Out For Our Best Interests”
11. “The 2012 Apocalypse Is Almost Here And We Are All Doomed Anyway – So Why Even Try?”
12. “Preppers Do Not Have A Positive Mental Attitude”
13. “If An Economic Collapse Comes I Will Just Go On Welfare”
14. “There Are Some Things You Just Can’t Prepare For”
15. “Prepping Is Too Expensive”
16. “We Are Not Like Other Countries – U.S. Cities Are Designed To Withstand Major Earthquakes”
17. “I Need To Save Up For Retirement Instead”
18. “The Stock Market Has Been Soaring So Why Worry?”
19. “I Don’t Have Room To Store Anything”
20. “Prepping Is For Crazy People”
21. “I Don’t Believe In Conspiracy Theories”
22. “All The Food I Store Is Going To Go Bad”
23. “I Would Rather Spend My Time Watching American Idol”
24. “All The People Who Freaked Out About Y2K Look Really Foolish Now, Don’t They?”
25. “I Don’t Want To Look Like Those Idiots On ‘Doomsday Preppers'”
26. “An EMP Attack Could Never Happen”
27. “There Will Never Be A Nationwide Transportation Disruption In The United States”
28. “Instead Of Being So Paranoid, I Would Rather Just Enjoy Life”
29. “If Society Falls Apart I Wouldn’t Want To Continue To Live Anyway”
30. “There Will Never Be Another World War”
31. “I’m Too Lazy To Grow A Garden”
32. “If You Assume The Worst Is Going To Happen Then You Don’t Believe In America”
33. “Deficits Don’t Matter”
34. “I’ll Always Be Able To Get A Job In My Field”
35. “If There Is A Financial Collapse All Of My Debts Will Be Wiped Out So I Might As Well Live It Up Now”
36. “If Things Hit The Fan I Will Just Go Move In With My Relatives Who Have Been Busy Prepping”
37. “Those That Believe That There Will Be Massive Riots In American Cities Someday Are Just Being Delusional”
38. “My Spouse Would Think That I Have Finally Lost It”
39. “I Don’t Know Where To Start”
40. “I’ll Just Deal With Problems As They Arrive”
41. “I Don’t Have To Prepare For A Natural Disaster – That Is What FEMA Is For”
42. “We’ll Never See Martial Law In The United States”
43. “I Don’t Want To Scare My Children”
44. “Once I Get Rid Of All My Debt Then I Will Start Thinking About Prepping”
45. “My Relatives Already Think That I Am A Nut Job – I Don’t Need To Make It Any Worse”
46. “If People At Work Find Out That I Am Prepping It Could Hurt My Career”
47. “If There Really Was A Good Reason To Prepare They Would Tell Us About It On The News”
48. “People Have Been Predicting Doom And Gloom For Years And It Hasn’t Happened Yet”
49. “The United States Is The Greatest Nation On Earth – There Is No Way That It Could Collapse”
50. “I Don’t Plan On Becoming A Card Carrying Member Of The Tin Foil Hat Brigade”
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Time is marching on. Dont give up on them. Remember that there was a time when each one of us didnt see the real picture. Dont give up.
I agree, I was like them 18 months ago. I believe it is coming in the next few years
Coming in the next few years…I have to disagree: it is ALREADY happening. Our government is already using the Constitution for toilet paper; faceless corporations are already stealing from people (hello? MF Global anyone?), we’re already being blatantly LIED TO about inflation, unemployment, etc etc. That is why I am not “prepping” that makes it sound like I’m waiting for something bad to happen. What I am doing is LIVING: living differently, changing my attitudes, changing how and where I get my food and clean drinking water, changing my “Benny bucks” into real money that’s shiny and hard. And friends, this four eyed computer nerd is getting guns and ammo and learning how to use them.
I’m not a prepper: I’m a LIFER
Whatever you do, just don’t have recurring Alamo fantasies. They are a waste of time.
Stellar post SonOfSam, and spot on. While a sudden catastrophe might accelerate things even more, we have been in an accelerating collapse for some time. It took centuries for Rome to fully collapse, but that civilization was not as dependent as ours on importation/theft of external resources, nor as efficient. Ours will occur much more rapidly, and the effects will be far less forgiving.
The only way to maximize your survivability is to change your mindset and mode of living right now. Anything else is accepting your enslavement, current and future.
@SoS:
It takes time for something that damned big to fall. Even a small empire (Rome for instance) took about a century before it finally stayed down in the west, and the eastern half of it managed to hang on for around 900 years beyond that.
Yup…..AGREED!
Thanks Mac for blocking me.
As has often been observed, raving antisemitism serves the purpose of the rabbis. It stirs up fear and enhances fund-raising and the rabbis’ control over “their” people.
Reasoned and well-documented opposition to the Master Race creed is another thing for the rabbis. Exposure of inconvenient facts weakens the carefully cultivated deception that Judaism is benign and no threat to the survival of us goyim.
Prosecute the guilty; leave the innocent alone.
Raving semites are the worst.
Sounds like the 50 conversations my wife and I have on a daily basis.
tell her that they all laughed at Noah too……my favorite line is ill steal from the preppers…..i hve 10,000 reasons they wont.
I only need to give one reason, and it will be delivered at roughly 2600 feet per second.
Only 10,000?
😀
Be informed
Couldn’t agree more!
Went to a family party in R.I. a week ago..everyone there was a so called progressive/liberal/Obama supporter..
Being an atheistic political junkie,we discussed current events and 2nd amendment rights and so forth..
Well,they all agreed on the right to bear arms..but..got vehement on my argument of the U.N.small arms treaty and national right to carry..
That’s when the party/conversations ended..
I never discuss prepping with anyone except like minded folks..
Should that subject have been brought up..all bets would be off the table..
That being said..
get your preps in order..
possee
political atheist
possee, love the line “political atheist” and have used it on many occassions. Didn’t you state that line a while ago?
By the way my fellow preppers, we are the minority and yet appear to be stronger in our convictions than the majority. There are a lot of military personnel becoming preppers of late. Enjoy hearing their conversations.
holy crap dude, are you really a Rho Dilunder? That, too, was once my unfortunate lot in life, but I have escaped and made my way here. Don’t take it too hard about those fools, all they ever did my whole life was bitch about things, but never did they get off their lazy butts and ever try to DO anything. They are slaves and they have the slave mentality, and they will keep sitting there waiting for someone else to come in and fix things…thats why they love Obama so, he doesn’t want them to think, he just wants their votes and their tax money.
New England in general is looneyville.
no..I am Masshole..
just as bad..
the bedrock of elitism
the bedrock of big lovin government
the former birthplace of revolution
the former birthplace of anti tyranny
now the deathknell of freedom
possee
“there was a time when each one of us didnt see the real picture”
I’ve been prepping since ’81 and I haven’t got a clue what the “real picture” is.
My aunt and cousin were visiting this past weekend from England. Talked to them about prepping and showed them my supplies. Even took them out shooting. They understood where I was coming from after a long conversation and believed it was a good idea to have something stashed. We’ll see how much they really listened.
AZ
I hope they did, me, lone and your relatives makes four….69,999,996 people to go lol
Take care
There are a few more UK preppers Burt – they are just keeping it all on the down low for fear of zombie invasion ; ) My 75 year old Mum calls it common sense.
Scamerloon doesn’t give us much choice but to keep quiet. April 2013 and the changes to the welfare state should make for “interesting times” in the words of that old Chinese curse.
(zombie invasion = chav/ned infestation for UK readers or the EBT welfare entitlement brigade for our US reader )
That’s the way to do it, is to cure one zombie at a time and hope you can save as many as you can before the horde starts roaming the countryside.
Agree that you have to keep on your family and friends to prep. Keeping peppering them with sites and articles that help explain it.
Funny I just posted yesterday on the 5 Reasons People Are Not Prepping.
http://www.thehomeforsurvival.com/2012/05/20/5-reasons-people-not-prepping/
Went into a bit more detail on why I think people are thinking this way.
That’s a week’s worth of Top Ten lists for Letterman.
“The sands of time, for me, are running loooooooooooow”.-Iron Maiden
No one knows how much time we have left but none of those 50 reasons would ever stop me from preparing, or as i would like to call it, living responsibly.
You forgot “I’ll just live off the land with my Rambo knife and a Glock”
Don’t rip on those people! I can always use a Rambo knife and a Glock to add to my gear.
You sir, are a fine rifle… almost as fine as my Yugoslavian Mauser.
”Once Barack Obama Wins The Election Everything Will Be Better”
3. ”Once Mitt Romney Wins The Election Everything Will Be Better”
Those two reasons had to have been the funniest thing i’ve read all year.
They will both be in chains after the mass arrests take place and the Constitution is restored.
-3 so far on arresting the Kenyan Marxist and the Massachusetts Empty Suit? Something is fishy here!
One better and not listed…”I have a rifle and ammo..the woods are full of game.”
Yep..dh’s friend told him that..ya see, he’s the only one shooting..UH–huh!!
They are out there and among us.
Good; don’t prep. And especially don’t just get ready for a few weeks. The stupid with nothing are easier to take care of. I spent years dealing with people and the one thing I am sure of is about 3/4 of them are dead weight. The only good thing that might come out of this is the dumb ones die. Sorry not to be Mr. Nice Guy but I’m very tired or supporting people who are to stupid to take care of themselves.
Dont be sorry and dont apologize: if you’re anything like me, you spent years trying to help them and years trying to show them a better way, only to realize they are all too content to be pimp slapped by any slimyass politician who comes along saying HE is the answer to all their problems, but s;ll they have to do is to bow to him. They bow, then they get to watch the idiot box with their thumb up their ass
Is that why Jersey Shore and Real Housewives of whatever fans smell like shit when you shake their hands?
Two things:
1) the more of your immediate neighbors who are prepped, the less you’ll have to deal with them sneaking into your house for food. They also tend to help defend you better if they’re well-fed.
2) Not all non-preppers are harmless or helpless. Many of them are well-armed, and are rather creative when it comes to B&E. Unless you and yours are capable of fending off a *large* mob (you’re not) and are capable of staying awake 24/7/365 on guard duty for the first year (you’re not), you’ll be in deep kimchi.
Most are just scared and dont even want to think anything like that could ever happen. So they just look the other way and hope they will be dead by then.
Like the dead weight in the Congress. They only live (and pass laws) for their short, wastefull life.
At least 3/4 of Congress will be in chains after the mass arrests take place… which is right where they belong.
My dad thinks that, and if things turn ugly earlier he made it very clear he’s expecting a nicely spread bed and room service at my place… Wasn’t quite sure what to say to that!
Ha! If somebody (even an unprepared close relative) wants to share my house and food, they will be sleeping on a cot in the basement, hauling jugs of water up from the stream, and weeding my garden every day.
@kirsten, for your sake, tell your dad to get with the program or be ready to sleep on the streets.
I had a talk with my father in law over the weekend about prepping for the first time(my wife didnt want me to but I did anyways) he said hes content dying with the millions of other unprepared people, except for when it goes down he will be at my door asking for food cant wait!
Rock – I beleive this is the one reason that is the most common. When people say ‘I’d rather be dead then live through that kind of major disaster,’ I answer them,’But what if you do live through it, even if you don’t want to, what then?’
Reason number one is “stupid is as stupid does”. I have heard people say at least 3/4 of these, and it makes me sick to my stomach. Haven’t people learned just how fast something can come about, without warning. Even with warning, these morons would still not be trying to stock up as they would say it would just pass. I just don’t understand how most of these idiots can go through 9/11, all these earthquakes, terrorism in other countries, go through a 2008 depression, and so on and so on and not learn anything.
This is a very good article as it really irritated me with the shear absurdity of what people have fallen into. Maybe this is good for those that have prepared, because they are the ones that have the self defense. All these other characters that don’t prepare even for 3 days probably have given up their firearms because the government has called guns “evil”. Probably those that have not not prepared have not even owned a firearm and couldn’t even hit anything but there own foot if they even tried to use a firearm. Maybe these individuals that choose not to prepare will not even try to take what preppers have sacrificed their luxaries and many other pleasures, and just go try to chew on some tree bark or go eat their lawns.
I was really thinking about this, and the non prepper will likely not put up much of a fight, even in large numbers, against those that have stored up food and supplies. Most non preppers are quite spongy like the Pillsbury Doughboy. They do not want to face off with the common prepper that is very tough and usually has more than enough ammunition to handle even a herd of blobs trying to take their food from them and their families. Maybe this is a positive out of so many that choose not to prepare, they are too stupid and too weak to put up any type of threat to the prepper.
One can only hope they will go the way of the DoDo Bird quietly, but most of them have learned how to whine pretty well. When they have’nt eaten in a while, and are watching thier families go hungry, many will flip out. Expect them to blame those who had the foresight to prepare, and act accordingly.
For the slackers, everything is someone else’s fault.
Hey BeInformed you stated: “I just don’t understand how most of these idiots can go through 9/11, all these earthquakes, terrorism in other countries, go through a 2008 depression, and so on and so on and not learn anything.”
I’m actually a prepper, but not a true believer – just a cautious guy aiming to be as prepared and self sufficient as I can. I’d like you to really think about your words. Consider this. They learned the correct lesson. Our society is surprisingly incredibly robust. Americans don’t fall to pieces in a split second. Outside of the big cities we are more cohesive and more capable than you doomers will ever know. 9/11, earthquakes, terrorism, “depression” and yet how many Americans are blowing away their nextdoor neighbors? How many people are starving in the streets and eating human flesh? Have you ever sat back to realize that for the last hundred years or so they are the ones who have been proven correct time and time again and all the doomers, religious nuts, end of the world types are the ones who were WRONG.
A personal TEOTWAWKI can happen to any one of us at any time. preparing for tough times is a reasonable course of action. Having absolute faith in a complete collapse of society is to use a technical term – goofy.
Even if the SHTF worse than anything in American history, I will be more likely to share my wheat and lentils with my god fearing and helpful neighbors than a bunch of paranoid, misanthropes who seem to look forward to their neighbors’ suffering. There are lots of moral and capable unprepared people and and there are some selfish, violent, and delusional preppers. I’ll be making sure my powder is dry and be keeping a closer eye on the second group.
Wonder if I’ll get a single thumbs up?
@ DD. You are not dumb, just a little bit skeptical. Now, imagine someone that gets into smaller accidents all the time, yet does not curb their driving habits because they were minor. Eventually it comes, the type of accident that leaves the person’s car in two piece or more. The world has not curbed its own attitudes and bad habits that leads it into the abyss, EVENTUALLY. The geophysical aspect is speculation as events sometimes follow eon scales. Manmade disasters do follow patterns.
Please realize that the planet is only so big and there has never been so many on this planet at one time. There is a finite amounts of freshwater, arable land, food, energy, space, etc. The more crowded slums become, especially in hot humid areas, the more disasese develops and the higher the chance of a super pahogen coming out of that filth. This is one reason, a very good reason why people should be preparing, a true pestilence like some of these horror movies about a super bug getting out like Stephen King’s “The Stand”.
Each year the law of probability says that war will start on a global scale. It has been 67 years since WW2 and one can calculate the risk of one starting by simply plugging in how often a world war starts. Every 50 years means there is a 74% chance of WW3 this year. Every 100 years there is about a 50-50 chance. Every 200 years a world war starts means there is a 29% chance of WW3 beginning this year. Statistical probability stays human species is DUE for something global.
People continue to fight wars and continue their same pattern of behavior, so one cannot say that mankind has outgrown their need to fight wars on a global scale. They thought that after WW1, the wars to end all wars. Not correct. A TEOTWAWKI event would definitely fit into WW3 as the nukes would fly and the mushrooms will spout all over the planet.
I can understand your point about people thinking that prepper cry wolf too often. In the same, I can see how events on smaller scales continue to happen and you would think that people would learn from these smaller scale calamities and put away what they need. You would think just out of convenience they would put away what they need so they don’t have to depend on walmart to get their next meal if they are laid up with a bad flu or something.
I am sure you as a prepper truly feel the wonderful security of having what you need in the house that you can access and get to 24 hours a day when you are there. I grew up with the type of go to the store and get what you need and forget about stocking up, and even as a child I could not stand this when my other relatives had a full pantry. A non-prepper doesn’t and cannot feel this security, they only feel that walmart or their local pizza delivery person will ALWAYS delivery and that I cannot understand because it just doesn’t make any sense to me.
Bad times will come, it always does and I would think these non-preppers learned from just the Superdome hell that those that dind’t prepare went through. What is even more incredible to me is to have someone actually go through a nightmare of not having anything after a disaster and still not learn from it.
I am just glad that you prepare, that makes you smarter than about 99% of the population.
There really are no valid reasons to not at least make minimal preperations for hardship. Most of the people who voice any of the stated “reasons” have never had a really difficult event occur in thier lives. I learned after a bad injury, and subsequent layup that it is foolish not to have some extra food in your house if nothing else.
Most of the people who voice the stated “reasons” have been well-conditioned. Pavlov would be proud what the parasites have done to people’s abilities to objectively view reality and make sound decisions.
On the other hand, I am kinda partial to reason #35…
@just me, Number 35 is the most common excuse i hear personally from most people nowadays. The ones who say that truley dont believe anything bad will happen so they say it to look like they agree with you but wont have to put forth any action to prove it.
@ JustMe. I say living it up is going to the local sporting goods store and really loading up on anything and everything camping, Firearms and more firearms and plenty of ammunition, freeze dried foods, water filters, etc, etc. That is my idea of living it up, having everything available to have that wonderful feeling of security. I just wish I could afford to really live it up like this.
One I heard last week, “I’ll just get an EBT/SNAP card for food and unemployment will handle everything else.”
I gave up on him. No chance to save this one.
Ron White…”You can’t fix stupid.”
Makes ya wonder if Darwin was right about some things
My brother told me that “no matter how bad things get the dollar will always be the strongest currency so everything will be OK.”
I am the black sheep of my family, but hope that in the end my parents will realize it was not my siblings with two mortgages and a country club membership who were the successes, but was the son with the modest home, an old diesel pickup, and a self-sufficient retreat filled with provisions who chose wisely.
Hey there prep pastor,
I hate to say it, but when things go from bad to worse, your brothers will be targets because of those big homes: the welfare rats and deadbeats will go after them looking to rob them blind. Quick question: do either of your brothers have weapons ammo and some training? Because they are gonna need it
I’m fairly certain my millionaire sister has about a weeks worth of groceries in the fridge.
can she eat her bank account statements? I hear they make a helluva fondue!
PP,
So what your saying is your the ” little Piggy” that built his house out of stone.
I think there is a little ” Stone mason Piggy ” in every one at the SHTF
Site.
Mac,
I think this is a good prelude to getting into the” Psychology “of dealing
with people in a” SHTF” situation. I know most people here have thought
About this. Speaking for my, I question how prepared I am to deal with
people in A serious situation mentally and morally. Remote locations
Avoid having to make a lot of those discessions, but it’s hard to be invisible
In suburbia. Knowing where the line is in a bad situation is very important.
i am sure your Father sees it….. hold on to that.
my mother, sister, and a few of my kids don’t even call anymore because we live this way. they are gazillion-aires, living in florida most of their lives, and don’t even keep basic hurricane preps on hand. none so blind.
I don’t see serious trouble yet.
People still have jobs and everything still looks normal.
However I know that things will change for the worst but not for at least another 5 to 6 years.
Once in 2017/18 I will start to consider prepping.
I’m happy that your not my neighbor. On the other hand, no one lives within sight line or shouting distanse of my house for a reason.
And if you are one day late?
If you’re not prepping now, even after finding this website, you never will.
Why should I give the children’s food to dogs or my pearls to swine?
I shouldn’t.
You’re being sarcastic, right?
LOL.
Hey there P-Bob,
In all honesty, keep thinking that way. The more people that think like you, the longer that prices for guns, canned goods and gold and silver will stay relatively low. I have no problem scarfing that up for me and mine. So by all means, keep your brain turned off, ignore all the people in your neighborhood who haven’t worked in a year, ignore the trillions of dollars being created out of thin air to be dumped on Wall Street (inflation? what inflation?), ignore the full page ads in your local paper from dudes who wanna buy your gold –Im sure they are doing that out of the goodness of their hearts — ignore the fact that four eyed computer nerds like me have decided to buy guns and learn how to use them. Most of all ignore the lessons of history that teach how nations become over extended empires suffocating under the weight of bloated fatpig governments that try to stave off disaster by taxing the living daylights out of the average working stiff
Got to be sarc? right? If not please add #51 to the list. “I will wait till it gets real bad then THINK about doing something. My God the irony…
@Mac
There is one item missing after items #2 and #3!
This should be item #4:
”Once Ron Paul Wins The Election Everything Will Be Better”
Philipino, why go where you’re not wanted?
Mac, you should have a disclaimer on the site that says…
NO ZOMBIES ALLOWED!
Iowa, we need target practice, and here we have a real zombie wander in muttering “brains….brains…wish I had some!”
Why on earth would we want him to leave?
I believe Ron Paul may be installed temporarily as President when Obama, Brenanke, and the rest of them are perp walked in chains when the mass arrests take place. 90% of the military is for Ron Paul and who better to oversee restoring the Constitution?
Okay -3 so far for arresting treasonous political scum and temporarily installing Ron Paul as President to oversee the restoration of the Constitution. Either people aren’t paying attention or they don’t want things to get better, lest it interfere with there end-of-the world fantasies.
Agreed. Anyone who is betting solely on a politician, ANY politician to solve these problems is delusional. Even if Ron Paul were to get elected he would be president, not dictator. He is limited in what he can do by the US Constitution and he of all people would actually adhere to those limitations. Thus, were he to become president, it would probably be the beginning of a turn around, not the completion of it.
Even if he got his way completely, things would get worse until all of the bad debt and malinvestment that has been sparked by all of the Fed’s bubbles had been resolved. Thus times would likely get much harder in the short term because we finally would have a president with the guts to stop kicking the can down the road. If anything, you should prepare harder if you support Ron Paul because you know what is coming if he wins. In the end the country might finally get back on the right track but only if he had the support of the legislature, something that is not guaranteed given the nature of the career politicians in Congress.
I actually read this one on another forum discussing why people don’t prep:
“My uncle/neighbor/best friend owns a grocery store so I’ll have plenty of food and water if I need it.”
You can’t fix stupid — not even with duct tape. 🙂
And I can beat that one!!! A grocery store owner/operator asked why I needed so many boxes of macaroni(he was helping me get off top shelf) and I told him.
His response?? My wife urges me to do likely, but with all this(gestures to all the shelfs), why bother??
Just watched some footage from the nato summit. i dont understand why people go to protests, they just stand there, some chanting and others walking around on cell phones. The reason this will drag on for the next 5-10 years is because all we keep doing is saying “i dont like it”. we are already enslaved, so why are we waiting for something bad to happen. as if waiting for something bad to happen or for TPTB to make their first move will somehow free us. this website needs to actually plan and organize people in every state to come together. right now were all just prepping selfishly for us and our families only worrying about our own little bubbles. im guilty too, but there has to be another way to stop this.
i agree with a way where we could do it without being tracked somehow,
That’s easy: Go old school. How did people organize political movements before the days of electronic media? Answer that question and then use the answers to direct you to the proper path. Just be sure that everyone in your movement is on the same page and keeps the planning information beneath the electronic radar. That way you can do your (hopefully peaceful) demonstrations without the government knowing about it first. Remember: Social media networks and search engines are NOT your friend. Most of them (IXQUICK excluded) are in bed with the US Government due to reciprocal agreements to help with hacking issues. Using any of them to plan a public protest is asking to have your door kicked in.
What’s stopping you from organizing now? A website/blog/FB is not the place to do it though. No one on this site is going to be able to augment your supplies with their own, nor help you protect and defend each other. Maybe a very few people can get together through sites like this, but when the SHTF, I will likely never hear from any of you again.
My neighbors, family and friends are another matter entirely, and if you are waiting to organize those folks, then it is the same as waiting to prep. Organize now. Prepare now.
P.S. – Don’t discount the protesters in Chicago. At least they are awake, and many of them are ready and willing to put their safety and liberty on the line to try to bring awareness to others. Also, to carry out a protest of that magnitude requires a lot of planning, too. Just ask DHS.
Item #15 said its too expensive. I don’t agree with that assertion but I believe the excuse I don’t have the money is prudent for many people. Wasn’t there a story going around a few months ago about a $1,000 and how a majority of American’s couldn’t raise it if they have too? I was close to that recently; I mean I just had to put all my available income into that next door neighbors land I wanted so badly – like the number of acres I had wasn’t enough. Fact is he had a nice spring and stream on the property – the water I thought was gold – but buying it nearly broke my piggy bank and left me cash poor. I almost had to sell some silver dang it.
In all seriousness I was going through a very hard time when I realized I wasn’t well prepared. I had very very little money to spend on “preps” but found junk around the house to sell and make it possible. Just this week I wanted to spend $200 at Costco on an extra bucket of rice, lentils and their seed package (all on sale I think right now) and my wife said…really….don’t we have enough – you said we did….why can’t I lie.
You dont have to lie and you dont have to do it all at once. What you have to do is make sure to KEEP DOING IT. Even if you have to “throttle back” keep the throttle open. If you can’t do 200, do 100 or even 50
Tell you what I think. And remember it’s worth what you paid for it. First I just bought a few extra cans of what I was getting anyway. Then I started buying case lots cause it was cheaper and it was still the stuff I use. Then as I found good deals on FD 25 year pack food I would buy a few big cans of that and uses the regular stuff. And I have started (Well along ) in replacing much of my storehouse with N Pack, Things like tomatoes don’t keep well in regular cans so I’m using them up. I admit I just bought a case of diced Tomatoes for 50C a can but it wasa deal and I’ll use them
If anything is motivating, it is weather disasters when the power goes out for days. So this should motivate everyone to at least have two to four weeks of food, a gas grill or camp stove, candles, and extra daily use items put up. Don’t tell others about your preps, even stupid relatives or co workers, those in your social clubs or circles, golf buddies, etc. The worse things get, the better off we are keeping quiet and low key. Have trusted like minded “bartering buddies” but tell no one about what you are storing up.
Laura…..I agree on the weather disasters. Here is central FL a few years ago we got 4 (YES 4) hurricanes in one year.There was extensive damage and no power for 3-4 WEEKS. In the beginning there were no resturants open (no power), there were no gas stations open (no power). We found a couple of stores open (with generators) there was police officers present with sales for supplies being rationed.
This was MY EYE OPENER.
Most people didn’t even have enough gas in a gas can to remove limbs blocking driveways.
How soon we forget.
Andrew, alberto, erin, irene, ike, opal…why is it the “vowel” named storms are always the crappy ones? moved to tenn, and now have tornadoes and floods. always SOME reason to prep!
Tina: I have been thru numerous hurricanes since the late 60’s in Fla. where I used to live, and now in S.E. Alabama. The stores are stripped out just before the hurricane lands as people wait till last minute. I see the weather if one is way down in the gulf, I load up way ahead and gas up, etc.
I always wonder. What happened to the plywood from last time? Do people not have anything else to spend money on besides buying more plywood every yeaar? What happened to the air conditioners from last year’s A/C drive?
#33..”Deficits Don’t Matter”.Withy the current FRN fiat money system we have now,I have to agree with this.You can’t have $0 debt when the entire system is based on debt. The first $1 was borrowed (created) into existence and the illegal IRS was formed to pay back the interest on the $1 the DC corp borrowed from the Fed at ZIRP. Where did the taxpayer get the second dollar to pay the corp gov IRS taxes? It had to be borrowed into existence too in order to be in circulation. This is fractional reserve, fiat money based circle jerk 101. You can never pay off the debt. Fiat based money is set up too fail. That is the fucking point. It will fail when they have sucked up all the wealth from the common man. Cominjg soon to a nation near you.
Real gold-silver-commodity backed Treasury dollars will be making a roaring comeback soon…
Imagine; and I mean just imagine, that our government (cough) said to the people. We aren’t expecting the dollar to collapse, we aim to do all we can to not let it, but “just in case” here….here is a US Silver Coin, 1 ounce of shinny .999 silver just like Canada’s and we’re putting a $100 value on it. You give us a $100 crispy bill “Fed Res. Note” and we’ll give you this coin. In fact we’ll mint lots of these coins so everyone can get one or two. If we fail and the dollar inflates the silver will protect your value, and if we’re doubly wrong and we deflate you’ll have a $100 dollars just as sure as if you had that Fed. Res. Note…..and in the mean time it costs us only $35/40 to mint so we’re raising money and not raising taxes….how about all that? Instead of printing money for the big banks we’ll mint it for the “PEOPLE.”
Number 1 on the list should be “I’m a piece of shit”.
I like it Iowa! 🙂
ROFL! You made me spit out my tea with that one.
hard facts of shtf life
the less prepared they are , the better it will be for those who prep and are in the “know” , less competition for survival long term
in 1 month they’ll turn feral cannibal , 6 months most of them will be dead , in a year All of them dead or they’ll be feral diseased cannibals from eating human flesh
all “You” have to do is hide , keep em’ at bay , till they finish dying off
simple right
~NinaO
As harsh as it sounds, I agree with you. I’m done arguing with people: I believe and live as I want, and they get to do the same. For a while longer, anyway.
After a few glasses of “good” wine, I am starting to see the relevance in y’alls posture!
Count down the numbers and ask yourself; have I taught my sons or daughters well enough to continue when I hit the dirt? Big question, do you have to answers?
Teach them very well and never stop so our forefathers would be proud.
Y’all Beware!
Reason number five:
Yeah like its going to be easy to steal from a prepper. First you have to find one, and then you have to get them out of the way, not a very easy proposition.
If the prepper has been buying food you don’t think he would have been designing and arranging powerful protection for his food and fam too ?
All other things being equal, the advantage goes to those with a defensive position and knows the lay of the land.
And oh yeah, how are you going to get to the preppers cache? A bicycle? And where are you going to get your food calories to pedal with and water to drink to assault the prepper? You can bet he has battery powered EMP-protected motion detectors, dogs, night vision, and infrared cameras. You can bet he has a team, and walkie talkies. You can bet he has like four or five 12 gauge shotguns with loads of buck and sons, daughters, and a wife that know how to use them all. How are you prepared on running into hidden razor wire in the middle of the night. Or how about taking care of that pesky prepper with a roof hatch and about a gallon of carbolic acid, lye, or gasoline. Got that covered do you? With prepping comes defense. and you had better bet it will be serious and ready for a long seige.
I have ‘friends’ who jokingly talk about taking my preps. I don’t think it’s funny. When my preps have to be used the SHTF and don’t come knocking.
Another Alamo fantasy.
Spot on, L O ! I can tell you right now, I don’t look like much — think of the nerdiest guy you know, he’s probably my long lost brother– and I sure as hell aint no Rambo. Was never in the military and never served in combat. But I can tell you this: I love my wife and I love my children, and I’ve read way too much history to ever trust a politician’s promises. I will defend me and mine against all comers.
Btw, one of the advantages of being a computer nerd is knowing how to rig up networks and such, including for example some devices that are supposed to measure seismic activity, but are very good at telling you if something heavier than a dog has set foot on your property
just sayin’
Your “friends” are telling you they will literally kill you to keep from carrying their own weight.
An old Cherokee chief was teaching his grandson about life…
“A fight is going on inside me,” he said to the boy.
“It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves.
“One is evil – he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, self-doubt, and ego.
“The other is good – he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith.
“This same fight is going on inside you – and inside every other person, too.”
The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather,
“Which wolf will win?”
The old chief simply replied,
“The one you feed.”
Author Unknown
This is not a time to condemn those who are in denial, it is a time to realize what you are made of as a human being. I have read the words stupid and “they make me sick”, 3/4 will die, etc. You have no idea how things will go down and whether you will come out on top or not. This reminds me of the few men that fought over getting into the life boats, ahead of the woman and children on the Titanic. Where are the heroes, the warriors? If these things should come to pass, then I will cry for those that I can not help and hope there is someone to help my children if I am not here. Where is the humanity? Some of you are truly compassionate and this is not directed towards you. I do not mean to be judgmental, however I felt the need to say these things.
Yep
I’m feeding the good wolf. What is there that is not to be happy about? There will be mass arrests of the treasonous scum very soon, and December 21st is not the end of the word, its be beginning of a golden age.
The reason that we have this “attitude” is that you can bet your boots these people that you “cannot help” will many times have no qualms about helping themselves to what is YOURS. They already do it: its called WELFARE! And if things really do take a bad turn, you think they won’t try to form a mob to take YOUR stuff, like they did in Katrina? You think they wont try to rat you out to the authorities for a pat on the head and some Colt 45 malt liquor?
I won’t speak for others, but I might feel a little more kindly if people who happen not to agree with me on this subject didn’t immediately try to tell me how stupid I am for thinking what I do….yeah, I’m stupid, because all computer programmers who went to school on a full scholarship are “stupid” I have read a lot of history, and I have seen how nations decline, and that is what is happening here
Hey SOS you had me pegged. I’m in Software andnnetworks too.
And the broken glass idea is good. I saw loads and loads of jagged glass shards along the top of walls in Mexico. Inexpensive and probably pretty effective or we would not have seen it everywhere.
About three years ago when I started prepping, I made the mistake trying to get all my ‘friends’ to start prepping too, so the cat is out of the bag. My OpSec is blown trying to help folks. Now the friends have been ‘joking’ about stealing my reserves. That’s my family they are talking about. Not funny to this nerd.
They have gone from claiming I’m a nut, and that we will never need the reserves, to making jokes about stealing my families food! A pretty big change on their part. And it’s happening all over the country. No wonder we are seeing food inflation. Already there is nt enought to go around.
We have been gradually moving our stores to the country. My special buddy has country land, a house well away from population, and a family with kids, but no preps. And he has mighty skills. So a ‘team’ is born. And I have a bunch of boys and daughters who will stop at nothing to protect their families. We might be over-educated nerds but Lord help those who try to take our food.
SonOfSam,
You misread my statement, perhaps I should have made it more clear. (I have read the words “stupid” and “they make me sick”, “3/4 will die,” etc.) I was simply quoting words on this site that referred to the non-preppers. I did not call anyone stupid.
I hold native American wisdom in a very high regard, but in this particular case, I would have liked to ask that chief:
“O Wise One, what if those around you, or more specifically, those in power over you feed your evil wolf?”
No one can feed my wolves but me. I prepare, and pray for kindness, to prevent the evil wolf from being unleashed.
We are the ones in charge of our own souls, and to the extent they are blackened and stained, we can’t stand in front of God and point our finger at someone else. It didn’t work for Adam and Eve, and it won’t work for us.
@ Ohcumgache; I really enjoyed your post.., where can I get these words of wisdom from? Is there a book or website I can go to?
I could use this wisdom to teach other people.
Thanks in advance. 🙂 ~~~~~~~~ EAGLEDOVE~~~~~~~~~~
EAGLEDOVE,
Native American spirituality is strongly connected to the spiritual life and the oneness with Mother Earth. Balance, integrity and harmony, are extremely important. Also respect for every living thing.
You can google many different sites that will have proverbs, sayings, quotes, beliefs, etc. Just google Native American Sayings and Proverbs. I have some very old booklets that I sometimes refer to however most of the same quotes are available on line.
Thank you for your interest, I believe this philosophy is truly calming and inspirational.
Thank you very much.
“Native American spirituality is strongly connected to the spiritual life and the oneness with Mother Earth. Balance, integrity and harmony, are extremely important. Also respect for every living thing.”
This something I understand.., so I have a better understanding of God / Mother Earth.
I will look up the sayings and proverbs. 🙂
The story of the wolf made so much sense and hit home with me.
Thanks again.
Also, that is why I chose EagleDove.., balance of strength and peace.
Agreed. As Derrick Jensen has said, “That’s one of the beautiful things about denial; by definition you don’t know you’re in it.” The path out of denial is always personal. (You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink.)
But when someone does awaken, they can be a huge benefit, or huge detriment, and you cannot always tell in advance which they will be. Hanging them all out to dry in advance merely reduces the chances that you form a relationship that might save your life or that of a loved one. The flip side of that coin is that, still suspending judgment, we all need to discriminate wisely. Judgment in advance does not, cannot, serve that purpose.
For number 1, I would tell that person that there is precedent in the nation for economic collapse. I would ask them what the Great Depression was if not a collapse.
For number 44, I would counter that getting out of debt is a good way to prep, if the goal is to get out of debt quickly. I paid off my house in seven years from the point of refinance, ten years from the time I bought it. Getting rid of that debt was part of my prepping, in that once the bank note is cleared, there was no worry of losing my home to a bank. While I was paying off the house, I did spend some money on preps, just not near as much as I have since the house note was paid off.
Most of the excuses in this list come from plain stupidity.
Last year when we had the blackout that affected all of San Diego County we started our standby generator, cooked dinner and watched the news. It showed all these people crowding stores buying water and food. Women crying trying to get in the store, scared kids and dad’s with that deer in the headlight look.
Most of these people are suffering from the “normalcy bias”. They think things will always be normal. Sure some ups and downs but not total collapse. They cannot fathom or understand the high percentage chance it will happen in the next couple years.
Look at Greece, Italy, Spain and the UK. Look at the turmoil in the Middle East.
But hey all is good..Facebook had an IPO and lots of insiders made money. The final show of American Idol is coming. The unemployment is going down…thanks to all those people that used up their UI…so now they aren’t looking so we down count them.
Nothing wrong with being prepared and looking out for you and yours.
Nothing will be normal again after the mass arrests take place. After the federal marshalls and military take care of the top few hundred or top few thousand bankster-politicans, average citizens will have to take care of the tens or hundreds of thousands of smaller players who have been pissing on the Constitution for decades.
Unfortunately, Tmfc, I think the targets of the military and marshalls will not be the banksters and politicians.
do you why i like this website? it has for the most part people that have been on here for years and are normally excellent comments except for the im first, lol but its not asking to pay for something or mac is not trying you to buy products from him directly. its good info and good thoughts to think about. you gotta prep to a somewhat level or your gonna get burned and really do it, some get crazy more than others but we all have our rights to do what we want. but dont just put it off it will be too late. at least for gods sake have portable water at least 30 days food and guns/ammo silver/cash.
#51 If things really hit the fan and I can’t get my beer and cigarettes at the corner store, I don’t want to go on living anyway.
I hear variations of this all the time.
wow, what a bunch of crybaby cowards! PS I have dibs on their empty beer bottles: crushed glass would make a nice addition to my fencetops
sorry I meant to say do you know why in above statement. But I will just steal from the preppers. That is big to me. I dont think so. what a bum is going to look into a house and it could be a trap, he kicks in the front door which you have setup to be re-attached like a big piece of plywood. then he comes in with a gun but the homeowner has the advantage! you could be in so many positions that the bum will not be aware of, and your shot will drop him dead. its a win win for a home owner to defend his property with lights off in daytime and either in basement at night or a secure area. sorry deadbeats if you steal you will lose your life. its breaking and intering. tough love cat.
Here is a sad one I heard from my brother. I have type 1 diabetes, I only need to be prepared for about 3 months. That was one that I couldn’t argue. When the insulin runs out…..
There are natural methods of diabetes reversal, at the very least he could likely reduce it to a lower level. look into acupuncture, and extreme diet change. It can be done, but mainstream med will not tell you.
Many people believe that Cinnamon and Chromium Picolinate have moderate positive effects for diabetics. I always pack on 10 pounds immediately if I forget to take it for a few days. CP is cheap and I believe anything over about 500mcg is unnecessary.
There is NO CURE or help for Type I diabetes. In Type I the pancreas, more specifically the Islets of Langerhans do NOT function. Therefore the body produces no insulin and is unable to burn sugar with disastrous, fatal effect on the body.
Type II’s can be helped with diet, exercise and some supplements. However, it takes real dedication to changing your diet, committing to exercise and finding the supplements that work for you through trial and error. No easy task for most people.
Research “Fenugreek” and tell him to talk to his doctor about combining the two for now. It can reduce dosage and dependance on insulin. He will need some extra water to go with it, but that would be easier to find than insulin. I have known people who have reversed diabetes and gotten off insulin by making changes. Good luck!
You stole my thunder! =o)
One excuse — more of a reaction … actually, more a case of denial — that I have run into is from the pharm-dependent folks. I have actually been accused of being heartless, of actually desiring someone’s death, by merely pointing out that with a collapse, those drugs will be going away.
I agree that it is critical for those folks to dig in and learn how their particular malady can be helped or even cured through natural herbs and medicinals. Just don’t let Pfizer or the FDA catch you doing it.
The main reason for not prepping, that I hear, is; “I don’t have the time”. That’s because they have been on the treadmill of fast living, way too long. I want to go back to the days I spent with my Grandparents on my mother’s side. They grew up poor. After getting married they bought a little piece of mountain land for about a dollar an acre (60 acres), with a good spring and creek. They built a house with timber they logged and had sawmilled from their land. They had electricity for lights, etc., but no water heater or indoor plumbing until the mid 60’s when they drilled a well and installed a pump with a water line for inside plumbing only, to a kitchen sink. They grew mostly what they ate and canned or dried and smoked. They lived on about 100.0 dollars per month for necessities and chicken feed. They never went without and survived just fine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1bch3BVgl4&feature=related
I hear this often from some of my fellow Christian brothers and sisters; “Every generation thinks that they are in the Ends Times”.
However, more and more I’m hearing;”Things are getting worse, do you think that we are in the End Times?”.
a) no, we’re not
b) what difference does it make? We have to live in the times we are in, and face the facts of how we plan on living and surviving
At SonOfSam,
How do you know where we are on God’s timeline?
“Do not boast about tomorrow, For you do not know what any day will bring forth” Proverbs 27:1
We have been told about the “season”. We have been told to learn the parable of the “fig tree”. We are not to know the exact hour or day, for a reason. But all the signs and times are adding up at an exponential rate and the exponential curve will only become more prevalent in the days and months ahead. To not believe these statements is believing that we as humans will be able to turn things around on our own. It ain’t happening; because, we, as humans, have allowed evil and worldly lust to take us to a point of no return. Personal Prepping, on a mental,spiritual, and physical level is the only way we can have peace and peace of mind. Our Heavenly Father didn’t promise us it would always be a “piece of cake” living in the world; but, He did promise us, thru His Son, He would always be with us every step of the way. Each and every adult has to decide which way they are going with.
They left one off the list: “God is my provider. You’re living in fear.”
God is my provider too: He provided me with warnings and the common sense to do something about it. I think the ones who are living in fear are the ones who can’t face reality to be able to deal with it and prepare. They would rather deny reality and project their fear onto others as a defense mechanism.
Lisa, I have said this many times that I feel I am “called” to prep. I hear my church folks say that the 2nd coming will take place before things start to fall apart….this maybe so….and maybe not
I prep.If I am not around when things get tough then maybe i have been called to prep for someone else. Either way…I’m GOOD!
I feel a strong call to prepare as well, and it kicked in like a boot to my backside, or like the little comic of the lightbulb flashing on over my head. I think many people on this site have heard that clarion call.
I don’t necessarily think it’s the end times–who is to know? But I do know that, throughout history, there have been terrible collapses–centuries’ worth of horrors that were not, at all, the end times. So I prepare a little liferaft for my family as best as I can.
(Well said, who knows when things will happen, but as you say, they do happen)
“The Lord has made all for Himself, Yes even the wicked for the day of doom”. Proverbs 16:4
(frightening thought, is it not?)
With your post in mind, I’ve read many have notes ready of where they went; and a note telling them why they can use the preps they find; some are even leaving directions, etc. on cooking, etc..
Ask for help and I will do everything reasonably in my power to help you, try to pull a #5 and you’ll be mulch tilled into in my garden, with your soul fed to rabbits.
Greetings Everyone!
I’m not first again….
And I like it that way!
Personally,I’m trying to live a Christian life as far as my imperfect mind and body allow me.And I KNOW I’m imperfect,I only have to ask the wife for conformation on that!
As for the “End Times” stuff,as I understand the Scriptures,Christians should be “prepped” for the time.No matter if it arrives in their lifetime or not.And that includes having a personal “stash” for when things get dicey(like we’re not almost there already!).I even think I’ll get some serious personal protection for my family.Try to rape/kill my family and you’ll have to fight to the death for the privilege.I’ve given up on most of the stuff above(50 things).My most precious wealth no matter what,is my relationship with my Creator.I work on improving that “serious prepper” item everyday.I also try to offer the same strong hope to others(not so much so with ” material prepping” as we think of it here,one thing at a time!)Some listen,many scoff(sound familiar?),Some deride my faith as “unscientific” and “outdated”.I DO know the Scriptures warn that the times just before Judgment Day are going to be one hot mess(kinda like now don’t ya think?).It doesn’t matter anymore who’s in office,Who runs the banking system or what corporation ruins our water/air/food,etc.The TOTAL system is FUBAR beyond repair.World leaders lurch from one crisis to another without any solutions in sight.The Scriptures however, gave us a “early warning sign” a long time ago.They also warn us:”Unless those days were cut short no flesh would be saved”.Sounds like things WILL be truly awful.Yet,thru God’s saving grace towards people of faith he will cut short those days.Doesn’t matter when such “End Times” arrive,what really matters is how YOU grow in your relationship with your maker.I have faith if God could resurrect J.C. back to life,then trying to emulate his example(J.C.)might make it possible that no matter what happens(death included)I will be allowed into that promised Kingdom of his.I try to warn folks that “difficult times hard to deal with will be here” and try to offer them the same eternal hope.But I also remember that it was only Noah and his immediate family who put faith in the warning,tried to warn their fellow men of the impending deluge,BUILT the Ark as instructed AND gathered the things necessary to SURVIVE.It was that unshakable faith that saved them when God destroyed the lawless and ungodly back then.I can only hope things don’t get as bad in our time.But should it become so,I’ll be ready.We’ll all get to find out soon I suspect.
That’s the end of my rant,make of it what you will….
Best to All Here,
Hope everyone has food and a safe place to sleep tonight.
GFG
Everyone should remember this: “But as the days of Noe [were], so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.” The only part left for this fulfillment is for the return of the “fallen ones”. Noah and the ark ordeal was to rid the earth of the “evil angels” that had infilterated with the flesh woman and had offspring of “geber”, the giants, hybrids. Noah’s family were the only true pedigrees left, since Adam and Eve. When Satan is kicked/booted/returned to earth, he will be accompanied by his evil angels and the same “ordeal” will be happening again. When the “wise” see these things come to pass, and the Antichrist, played by Satan in the role of the returned Messiah, has come on the scene, LOOK OUT! Only five months left until the “true” Messiah shows up! If you feel lucky, wait until Antichrist shows up to begin stowing away “five months” worth of preps. Do you feel lucky?
First step to fixing stupid: Read the owners’ manual, then follow the instructions.
Just sayin’…..
There is no fixin stupid..its to the bone, you’ll drive yourself crazy trying
9. ”Wal-Mart Will Always Be There”
This is not only the funniest thing on the list…it’s also the saddest.
It’s so blatantly ignorant, yet these are the type of people I encounter that are apathetic to preparation. You cannot help these people. You can only help yourself and those that believe in you.
Keep preparing, protect your family and your home, keep God close, and never give up your freedom!
Late 2008 I woke up. Going on four years now “getting ready”. It wasn’t a dramtic awakening, more of a casual, “Man, things don’t look good in this day and age, I wonder what I should do”? Google took me on my quest from there.
Glad to see you’re on the road Van.
Good morning
I heard a cracker at school this morning.
Mom 1. What about all this in Greece then?
Mom 2. Yeah, bad innit ?
Mom 1. It won’t get to that over here
Mom2. Nah, the government can’t stop payin’ us there’ll be riots.
Mom 1 my bruvver, haz loads of stuff in ‘is loft…fuckin’ nutter
Mom 2 ah well, least you’ll be alright if it does get bad
Mom 1 miserable bastard told me he wouldn’t help me, said eed have the kids but not me
Mom 2 like your Mark would stand that
Mom 1 yeah, I told me bruvver,if I wan it I’ll fuckin’ ‘ave it, and if you fink you can stop my Markie fink agen, you fink we gonna starve wen you got all that, ‘ess fuckin’ mad ‘ee is.
These are not typos, this is entitlement mentality, and slum English. If I knew her brother I would tell him to move house and not leave a forwarding address.
I cannot risk telling anyone here what I do and why I do it. This means that those of us who do prepare are not able to wake people up, it’s too big a risk. The vicious circles just carry on rolling around. Preppers prep in secret and the asleep stay that way.
Take care
Worst part of moving later this year will be scoping out those few that are trustworthy in the new locale. No option about moving – the risk of civil unrest is too high to remain in London in the coming years.
If the woman is like that about her own brother, non-family won’t stand a chance against a feral mentality like that.
Lone
Agreed, but this is why we cannot speak to others, you just have no idea who you can trust. Until today this person had appeared quite affable, a regular average Joe. Just goes to show eh?
Take care
Love the slum English Burt, classic…
Burt., did I understand this correctly? Her brother is a “NUT”., until she needs help with food?
What a B***h. Pardon my slum american. 😉
Peter/Eagledove
Slum American away guys. It never ceases to amaze me. Yes the brother is a nutter…but still expected to feed her…I hope he knocks her and her “Markie” on their arses and locks the door…but I’m a nasty bitch like that lol
Take care chaps lol
Eagledove,
What’s b****h mean?
Insert “itc” where the stars are. 😀
Burt.., I was referring to “Bitch”., I wanted to keep it family friendly. 🙂
I added one to many asterisks ., my fault for the confusion.
Wish I could make smilies on my posts…I have them, but they do not like transatlantic travel.
We must be siblings separated at birth, because we have the same sister.
You gals across the pond in Britain really crack me up. I feel a distant kindred spirit, especially since I got most of me gene pool from my greatest of grandpappys that lived over there in England and made the Atlantic Crossing for a new life in the mid 1700’s. Would love to vist his ole stomping grounds.
When the complimentary “Take a penny leave a penny ” bowl is full of silver, you should realise it wont be long
1. ”The U.S. Economy Is The Greatest Economy On The Planet – There Is No Way That It Could Ever Collapse”
I wonder what city-fathers of Rome would have said about this one
2. ”Once Barack Obama Wins The Election Everything Will Be Better”
Exactly what Germans thought when electing Mr Hitler
3. ”Once Mitt Romney Wins The Election Everything Will Be Better”
Exactly what Germans thought when electing Mr Hitler
4. ”When Things Get Really Bad The Government Will Take Care Of Us”
Ask those Super Dome residents about their take on Government help.
5. ”When Disaster Strikes I Will Just Steal From Everyone Else That Has Been Busy Preparing”
There are many who are doing it right now, ask them how easy and fun it is.
6. ”The Rapture Will Be At Any Moment So I Don’t Have To Worry About Prepping”
You should be reading your Bible more intently. I am no Bible thumper yet even I know this one “not even the Son knoweth the day or the hour”. so you must be a candidate to take Jesus place then
7. ”The Economy Has Always Recovered After Every Recession In The Past And This Time Will Be No Different”
true in some retrospective cases, but in that case preparing won’t hurt you either
8. ”The People That Are Running Things Are Very Highly Educated And They Know Exactly What They Are Doing”
oh yes, this one is the number 1 in the Duffus election. watch some speaches by GW Bush or any other politician for that matter. unless of course you are bellow their level, in that case you are right – politicians are indeed more intelligent than you, and you are better off trusting gooberment
9. ”Wal-Mart Will Always Be There”
sure, just like Lehman Bros – they were there for ever too
10. ”Our Politicians Are Watching Out For Our Best Interests”
indeed! MF Blobal.
11. ”The 2012 Apocalypse Is Almost Here And We Are All Doomed Anyway – So Why Even Try?”
this one is even beyond my skills to refute. lol. The only preparing you need is to put a paper bag on your head and lie down. Now, go do it.
12. ”Preppers Do Not Have A Positive Mental Attitude”
I like those with Positive Mental Attitude – like, Eva Braun. It’s called rosy eye glasses for a reason.
13. ”If An Economic Collapse Comes I Will Just Go On Welfare”
and that is one educated assumption. Economy collapses and we will still have Welfare.
14. ”There Are Some Things You Just Can’t Prepare For”
True, but there are those you CAN prepare for. And it’s me who’s with Negative Mental Attitude.
15. ”Prepping Is Too Expensive”
tell that to the unemployed dad and mom who put away stuff in case it will be even worse
16. ”We Are Not Like Other Countries – U.S. Cities Are Designed To Withstand Major Earthquakes”
hmmm, I think I heard that before… but can’t place where it was…. oh yes! Japan, March 10, 2011
17. ”I Need To Save Up For Retirement Instead”
ask some pensioners about the Retirement
18. ”The Stock Market Has Been Soaring So Why Worry?”
so has the prices
19. ”I Don’t Have Room To Store Anything”
you must be living in a well, and in that case you have my sympathies
20. ”Prepping Is For Crazy People”
In a Land of the Blind, the One Eyed is called Crazy
21. ”I Don’t Believe In Conspiracy Theories”
good for you!
22. ”All The Food I Store Is Going To Go Bad”
ask the vets who had a choice in WW2 and Korea – would they have starved or eaten those WW1 rations they got.
23. ”I Would Rather Spend My Time Watching American Idol”
go do it. there’s no arguing with that
24. ”All The People Who Freaked Out About Y2K Look Really Foolish Now, Don’t They?”
those Germans who believed that German Reich would last 1000 years looked really foolish too, didn’t they?
25. ”I Don’t Want To Look Like Those Idiots On ‘Doomsday Preppers’”
then don’t
26. ”An EMP Attack Could Never Happen”
I would very much hear an elaborated opinion on this one… please do continue…
27. ”There Will Never Be A Nationwide Transportation Disruption In The United States”
you know what they say about the word “never”
28. ”Instead Of Being So Paranoid, I Would Rather Just Enjoy Life”
just like Hitler enjoyed it moving non-existent divisions on the map. the end result is the same.
29. ”If Society Falls Apart I Wouldn’t Want To Continue To Live Anyway”
then at least buy a gun, so you could end your life less painfully, oh and go to the shooting range to learn to shoot, you don’t want to blow off your chin and then need to try again and again, would you?
30. ”There Will Never Be Another World War”
said the gentlemen after WW1
31. ”I’m Too Lazy To Grow A Garden”
and I’m too lazy to feed you. good day sir.
32. ”If You Assume The Worst Is Going To Happen Then You Don’t Believe In America”
I think this was rephrased, the original sounded:
“All those who want to prepare say “I hate America””
33. ”Deficits Don’t Matter”
nothing matters – deficit, unemployment, debt, gold price, inflation etc.
natural question arises: why do we have government at all? oh yes, so that all those things would continue to exist…
34. ”I’ll Always Be Able To Get A Job In My Field”
good, so you must be a doctor. because this is probably the only profession that found employment even in the Gulags among the prisoners
35. ”If There Is A Financial Collapse All Of My Debts Will Be Wiped Out So I Might As Well Live It Up Now”
that is my sincere hope too! But I have to live to that point in future don’t I.
36. ”If Things Hit The Fan I Will Just Go Move In With My Relatives Who Have Been Busy Prepping”
how did it work out when your nephew asked for help when he lost his job? he sure lived with your family for 5 years until he got one and re-established himself
37. ”Those That Believe That There Will Be Massive Riots In American Cities Someday Are Just Being Delusional”
um… um… speechless….
38. ”My Spouse Would Think That I Have Finally Lost It”
don’t worry, when you’ll lose it all you both will lose it
39. ”I Don’t Know Where To Start”
there is one magic artefact out there to help you in your quest my young Jedi – Google.com, use it wisely
40. ”I’ll Just Deal With Problems As They Arrive”
with what?
41. ”I Don’t Have To Prepare For A Natural Disaster – That Is What FEMA Is For”
New Orleans – did I just repeat myself?
42. ”We’ll Never See Martial Law In The United States”
No! oh and btw, don’t mind those Black Hawk Helies, they’re here for your protection/just training.
43. ”I Don’t Want To Scare My Children”
Then don’t tell them that “sky is falling” let them find that out by themselves. Just sit on your porch, have a beer and watch how they become terrified of their own accord.
44. ”Once I Get Rid Of All My Debt Then I Will Start Thinking About Prepping”
by then you’ll be six feet under probably…
45. ”My Relatives Already Think That I Am A Nut Job – I Don’t Need To Make It Any Worse”
well then, if they already think you’re a wacko, then there is nothing to lose buddy!
46. ”If People At Work Find Out That I Am Prepping It Could Hurt My Career”
as if your career is blooming right now. on the other hand why in the heavens would you let them know????
47. ”If There Really Was A Good Reason To Prepare They Would Tell Us About It On The News”
sure, sure, since there is no need now, go back to Dancing with the Stars!
says Mr Goverman and murmurs quietly “I wonder how my subterranean palace building goes”
48. ”People Have Been Predicting Doom And Gloom For Years And It Hasn’t Happened Yet”
Like these:
Cassandra of Troy, Guderian/Manstein/others of Third Reich or Bard of Esgaroth for that matter…
49. ”The United States Is The Greatest Nation On Earth – There Is No Way That It Could Collapse”
“The Rome is the greatest Empire in the world, there is no way that it could collapse”
Romulus Augustulus AD476 (conjecture)
50. ”I Don’t Plan On Becoming A Card Carrying Member Of The Tin Foil Hat Brigade”
so you must be a Card Carrying Member of that Other Group… wink wink wink…
@ Giurza. Commenting on all 50, that’s cool, thank you for an enjoyable read. I throughly really liked your remarks, as I am sure many others have. All too true, as I really have seen so many parallels especially to number 49, Rome. It is eerie how the United States is following such a similar path, especially with both of the econmies closely mirroring each other. I guess people never learn do they?
makes you wonder why they don’t learn, doesn’t it… makes you feel like the One Eyed 🙂
RE: #44 – debtless, and still kicking! House is paid off, and no other loans outstanding.
Daisy
more reading
http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2012/05/missing-fbi-agent-stephen-ivens-has-grown-a-beard-family-facebook-post/
thanks – we were talking about this again last night. stinky, stinky, stinky.
Wow, thanks VRF. Did you happen to read through the comments and read the post from “Sorcha Faal”? That, to me, says it all:
A bizarre Foreign Ministry report circulating in the Kremlin today states that this Friday past (11 May) Russian Envoy Vladimir Vinokurov, the Consulate General of San Francisco, was approached near his hotel room during a visit to Los Angles by an agent of the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) identifying himself as Stephen Ivens [photo top left] who warned that he and a former FBI agent named Donald Sachtleben had uncovered evidence of an impending terror attack on US soil stating that those behind the attack were “all insane.”
me and my brother are new at this we just started to prepp
A big Welcome to you and your brother jimmy!
Jimmy
Hiya.
I am only a year in myself, you will learn so much on here.
Welcome
Take care
Most people don’t see the need for it. People who are working and aren’t worried about losing their jobs don’t think the economy is that bad. It’s not about making excuses. They remain unconvinced about the necessity.
It’s the selfish “I’m alright Jack” mentality.
The worst offenders I noted even as a kid are often regular Church goers of the solidly middle-class variety.
Until “it” happens to them – job loss, bereavement, abandonment and disability being the most everyday examples. The second “it” happens to them, you see the hand outstretched in expectation of both alms and compassion that they previously denied others.
It’s a very common, and dangerous Karmic trap.
How bout being a DUMDASS
My excuse is 2008 was the crisis, we are now in the recovery.
Now, are things going to get worse(and much worse in Europe), yes; but you will notice that every country that gets in further economic trouble is looking to the US dollar.
The US is still the best thing around and its not about to crumble into nothing and China is not going to take over; their real estate bubble is about to come crashing down on them and its going to set them back years.
We are in a deleveraging period that started in 2007 and will last probably another 10 years. During that time, wages will be stagnant and recoveries will be non-existant but the US will not crumble.
Only exception to my theory would be something like an EMP attack, but that has been an issue for years. you either have to live the rest of your life as a prepper or just accept that things can happen.
Ummmmmm…. no. Every day another country drops the Federal Reserve Note and starts trading internationally with gold, oil, commodities, or alternative currencies. The FRN is circling the drain, as the is New World Order that depends on it. Mass arrests and a USSR-style dissolution are coming to the U.S. before the end of this year. Freedom will ring and gold/silver/commodity-backed Treasury Notes will return. The future of mankind is bright once we shed this spirit-killing debt-based economy and move to an equity and resource based economy. If I’m wrong, I’ll be the first to admit it and will happily jump onboard with the bunker-dwelling doom-and-gloomers that see to dominate here.
The Federal Reserve has printed trillions of bogus dollars. The rest of the world is making plans to eliminate the dollar as the world’s reserve currency. It’s only a matter of time before the dollar loses 90% or more of its value. There’s ample evidence that the government is preparing for martial law.
@ barn cat. our dollar has already lost 90% of its value since 1913.
I voted for Obama and when he won I quit my job since I knew he was gonna take care of me. I am still waiting for my new car and money, all I got was a crappy extra $100 on my food stamps. Guess I need to vote some more dems in and rep out so Our Most Wonderful Leader can take care of us. I also heard he was born on a MT. top and can never die, and he never goes to the bathroom , we all need to gather in a stadium with pink pom poms to wave around to his Greatness!!!
The truly “dedicated” non-prepper is one that totally indulges into their own pleasures of the moment. The truly “dedicated” non-prepper will never change and start to put away for tomorrow as they ONLY know one word, TODAY. The “dedicated” non-prepper is ONLY interested in taking what is available at reach and will not put any effort into storing what they or there families need. Not all non-preppers are this way (just the DEDICATED ONES), and some can definitely wake up and save themselves and their families.
Some individuals though it is totally hopeless, and these individuals will end up statisitics in some future history book. The “dedicated” non-prepper will always depend on Walmart and others to bring them food and ALL their other necessities, and just cannot even “force” themselves to preapre for any type of emergency because it is their “NATURE”.
This article should have been titled “Why it’s a waste of time trying to convince people to prepare.”
It’s called triage for a reason.
Mac, Sowhatstheplan? and eric,
I have often wondered what we can do together after discussions here and I am also concerned as eric “i agree with a way where we could do it without being tracked somehow.”
Where do we go from here?
Maybe Mac or Daisy or others may have suggestions. For now I will offer the following:
I’ve been in many places, but I’ve never been in Cahoots.
Apparently, you can’t go alone. You have to be in Cahoots with someone.
I’ve also never been in Cognito. I hear no one recognizes you there.
I have, however, been in Sane. They don’t have an airport; you have to be driven there. I have made several trips there, thanks to my friends, family and work. I live close so it’s a short drive.
I would like to go to Conclusions, but you have to jump, and I’m not too much on physical activity anymore.
I have also been in Doubt. That is a sad place to go, and I try not to visit there too often.
I’ve been in Flexible, but only when it was very important to stand firm.
Sometimes I’m in Capable, and I go there more often as I’m getting older.
One of my favorite places to be is in Suspense! It really gets the adrenalin flowing and pumps up the old heart! At my age I need all the stimuli I can get!
And, sometimes I think I am in Vincible but life shows me I am not.
People keep telling me I’m in Denial but I’m positive I’ve never been there before!
I have been in Deepshit many times; the older I get, the easier it is to get there. I actually kind of enjoy it there.
So far, I HAVEN’T been in Continent; but my travel agent says I’ll be going soon.
Y’all Beware!
Vu Jà Dé – Have you ever been somewhere and know
You have never been there before?
So, can get there from here?
Some more excuses:
51. My cousin, brother, aunt etc. is a prepper. When things get bad I move in there (with the nine kids of mine!!!).
52. I am an Amish. We are already self sufficient. Why prep?? But I am looking for some hands who are good with guns. We are not really allowed to use them. Just in case…
53. I am going to join the police/TSA or whatever and when martial law is declared, I am going to have a great time bullying my fellow citizens, putting them into FEMA camps and go for their wives.
54. When things get bad I will become a charismatic warlord and start my own kingdom. Then I will live of the peoples tributes.
55. My name is Rothschild.The collapse was our idea. Why on Earth should I prepp?
Matthew 24:14 Commission
Rapture fact or Fallacy
“Those who endure to the end will be saved” Matthew 23:13
Those who believe in a Pre-tribulation rapture have succumbed to a deluding influence and will most likely suffer the same fate as Chinese believers expecting to get raptured out of here before things got bad.
Even Jesus encouraged being prepared!
The pre-trib Rapture is what the Bible teaches and it’s what the early church believed. I believe we’ll see a complete economic collapse first. That will cause enough chaos to lead to the one-world government prophesied in Revelation. The Rapture will happen after that.
Jesus comes back twice. He comes like a thief to take His church. He comes back again at the end of the tribulation. At the end of the 3 and 1/2 year period when everyone is expecting him. Those two events are contradictory. They can’t happen at the same time.
(Rev 3:3 NIV) Remember, therefore, what you have received and heard; obey it, and repent. But if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you.
(Rev 1:7 NIV) Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him; and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
The Bible does not teach pre-Trib Rapture.
If you can lay out pre-trib rapture scripturally without conjecture, speculation, and convolution; I’d like to see it.
“But immediately after the tribulation of those days THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED, AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT, AND THE STARS WILL FALL from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. “And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory. “And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.” Matthew 24:29-31
Barn Cat, I believed in a pre-trib rapture for most of my adult life. When I got serious about biblical truths I prayed for “the truth”. I got the truth and it doesn’t include a pre-trib rapture. There will be a “change”, from flesh, into spirit bodies; however, that does not happen until Christ returns on a white horse. He only comes once. No big secret event. Every eye shall see. It happens “after” the tribulation. At that time, every person alive will automatically, at the twinkling of an eye, be changed. The good, bad, and the ugly. The problem with the teaching of, and believing of a pre-trib change is that the antichrist will come on the scene first, claiming to be Christ.
One of the most important items is a very low profile. Unless I can certain I can trust the other party, I am NOT going to tell them I am making plans and preparations for when the SHTF (in whatever form it comes in). I have a “cover story” for any thing I buy. I am getting ready for hunting season, a big family reunion, gifts for the kids who just happen to like old coins, tools ect, going to take that long camping trip to a state park. The thing I want any one to know is that I am a prepper, and draw attention to myself. I happen to live in a very liberal state and metro area, so I am not going to waste my time talking to idiots who still have their Obama 08 bumper stickers on their cars. They are doomed.
What’s worse are the people who have “Obama 2012” bumper stickers. You have to wonder about their level of intelligence.
I also live in a very liberal state and I see these bumper stickers a lot.
Hey Burt…, Is this where we practice our Remote Viewing? 😉
Eagledove
Bwhahahahahaha how in the hell did I do that? You had better not remote view me tonight…my hair is a mess and my nails need doing, I’ll let you know when it is safe to tune in.
I heard off Manos just a couple of hours ago, he is fine as are his family, he is resigned to Greece going under and says he is enjoying each day for what it offers him. As usual I passed on love and prayers on behalf of all of us.
Take care
Glad to hear Manos @ family are well.
This might be a crazy idea .., if Manos kept a log / diary of his every day events, in which would tie in with SHTFplan.., and in a few years “IF” things would get better, he might be able to sell a best selling book or possibly made into a movie.
This possibly help his family in the future.
Good evening Burt.
Eagledove
What a brilliant idea. I will pass it into him….I will tell him it was your suggestion.
Take care
I can remember when Manos said that he and his family were prepping. I believe he said (please correct me if I am wrong) that he moved his family to the country and was growing his own food.
Manos is the poster child for prepping, in my opinion. He was prepared well before the bank runs.
I hope he stays safe. I always look for his posts when I come on here. He is a real hero.
I don’t know Manos on a personal level., but he seems like the kinda of guy who will have your back in a bad situation.
You missed one. “Jesus will take care of me.”
15. ”Prepping Is Too Expensive”
tell that to the unemployed dad and mom who put away stuff in case it will be even worse
~~~or…tell that to the unemployed dad and mom that put every bling in their garage and children’s bedrooms and wish they hadn’t~~~
There was a time when I fell into several of those categories, so I don’t judge or criticize. I woke up and have begun to prep, with still a very long way to go. All I can do with my family is continue to encourage and help. I actually think that my wife is beginning, at least in small steps, to get on board. My 9 year old is with me 100%. looking up
Had a fellow Christian acquaintance inform me that hoarding food goes against the Bible. Said the Bible is very clear that it’s a sin. What??? Wasn’t Noah the original prepper? Anyone who has read the book of Proverbs can see many reasons to prepare. So, I said, could you please direct me to the passage that says storing food is a sin, he said he would…tick, tock, tick, tock…yawn…still waiting……..
I am not one to criticize anyone but I think that your fellow Christian acquaintance is in error. Noah was a prepper and a magnificent servant of God. Keep up the good work.
Ad Gloriosum et Dei æterni
Carolina Girl,
Playing one of my favorites right now – Carolina Girls by General Johnson . . .
Got happy feet now and need to go Shaggin!
Y’all Beware! Yawn again ..cause – open mouth insert foot!
Haha, I love the song too, and our beautiful Grand Stand is the place to hit for shagging!!
Shagging, a southern (mostly) dance that involves horizontal dance moves, but no vertical dance moves (jumping, etc.). The purpose of no vertical moves is to not spill the beer you’re holding in one hand.
#1 reason to prep:
– Because preparing is hope.
51. “If anything happens, I’m just gonna come to your house.”
I prep BECAUSE of 8. ”The People That Are Running Things Are Very Highly Educated And They Know Exactly What They Are Doing”
By nature, I am not a violent person. I did, however, survive hand to hand combat during the Tet offensive in 1968 Vietnam. Some clown coming after my stuff will pay with his life!……Count on it!
Mac, Let me know if it’s Ok to post product links to stuff I bought for prepping.
I did buy some crap….and also great stuff…I think the product links add to the value to your site to help folks know what to buy. Steve from Buffalo, NY.
Great site. You are a patriot.
The following are all things I bought to prep. my home and car for the SHTF:
Here’s my review for my fellow preppers…
***MAGLITE S4D016 Heavy-Duty 4-D Cell Flashlight
Review: Great Skull Cracker!!!
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00002N6SI/ref=as_li_tf_til?tag=glocodgui-20&camp=14573&creative=327641&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=B00002N6SI&adid=0HMXGRYWXW44SXEPW15Y&&ref-refURL=http%3A%2F%2Fglobalcodeguild.com%2FStore%2Ftabid%2F104%2FDefault.aspx
***Buck 110 Folding Hunter, Lockback Folding Knife
Review: Sharp, something to leave the grandkids, handy too.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000EHYZKK/ref=as_li_tf_til?tag=glocodgui-20&camp=14573&creative=327641&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=B000EHYZKK&adid=1M0F4NX876B1KFTZMVD0&&ref-refURL=http%3A%2F%2Fglobalcodeguild.com%2FStore%2Ftabid%2F104%2FDefault.aspx
***First Alert CO615 Carbon Monoxide Plug-In Alarm with Battery Backup
Review: Beats dying…have one for safety….cheap. Heady duty construction.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000Q5VMKG/ref=as_li_tf_til?tag=glocodgui-20&camp=14573&creative=327641&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=B000Q5VMKG&adid=0W4JEB3A6KMB14648J7J&&ref-refURL=http%3A%2F%2Fglobalcodeguild.com%2FStore%2Ftabid%2F104%2FDefault.aspx