Gov’t Officially Steals More Than Thieves: “Civil Asset Forfeitures Exceed All Burglaries in 2014”

by | Nov 18, 2015 | Aftermath, Conspiracy Fact and Theory | 86 comments

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    This article was originally published at The Daily Sheeple.

    Editor’s Comment: There are plenty of thefts and break-ins across the country, and the issue will always be a problem. There will always be criminals and desperate individuals to deal with, though better economic conditions minimize them.

    The fact that “official” robberies staged by law enforcement officers profiting the system off the backs of Americans through civil asset forfeiture laws has exceeded the scale of ordinary forms of theft shows how bad the problem of abused authority has become. Keep in mind that confiscations under civil asset forfeiture don’t require convictions or charges. In fact, many of the victims of this sophisticated and brutal form of theft have not been accused of doing anything wrong at all.

    Feds Stealing More Than Thieves: Federal Civil Asset Forfeitures Exceed All Burglaries in 2014

    The Daily Sheeple

    It’s official: more assets are being taken by federal law enforcement than by the criminals they are supposed to protect us from in this country.

    As Investment Watch Blog reports:

    Between 1989 and 2010, U.S. attorneys seized an estimated $12.6 billion in asset forfeiture cases. The growth rate during that time averaged +19.4% annually. In 2010 alone, the value of assets seized grew by +52.8% from 2009 and was six times greater than the total for 1989. Then by 2014, that number had ballooned to roughly $4.5 billion for the year, making this 35% of the entire number of assets collected from 1989 to 2010 in a single year.

    That’s $4.5 billion in federal civil asset forfeitures in the U.S. just within 2014. Billion, with a “B”.

    The FBI estimates that, by contrast, all 2014 property offenses totaled approximately $3.9 billion.

    That means federal cops are now officially raking in more “assets” than burglars in this country do.

    What does that tell you?

    What is civil asset forfeiture? Well, it was supposed to be a little used legal process that allows officers to seize someone’s assets for being suspected of a crime but without ever actually having to be charged with a crime.

    Just by definition, you can clearly see how this can be abused to turn a police station into a self-funded criminal gang.

    And that’s just on the federal level. Why can’t we see similar figures (or possibly much worse figures) at the state level? Because, in this pervasive surveillance state age of big data, “deriving similar totals at the state level is impossible because most states require little to no public reporting of forfeiture activity,” Mother Jones reports.

    Not only that, but as budgets have gotten tighter, and especially in the wake of the 2008 economic collapse, civil asset forfeiture has taken off in what has been described as a “meteoric, exponential increase” likely because “Forfeiture is an attractive way to keep revenue streams flowing when budgets are tight”.

    This chart says it all.

    blog_civil_asset_forfeiture_2001_2014

    When society can no longer tell who the real “criminals” are between cops and robbers… we’ve got a big, big problem.

    This article was originally published at The Daily Sheeple.

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      1. Still want to call a cop?

        • Anyone trying to steal from you using force needs to die. Prepare yourself, your home, and your property. There are many lethal defenses that they will miss before it’s too late to stop their deaths.

          • Airforce just tested its newly upgraded Nuclear Gravity Bomb! Needlessly flexing its muscles? Or are they gearing up for something more???

            RTP

            • How Yuan’s inclusion in the SDR will affect US Dollar holders?
              Using Johnny’s retirement savings currently at $200000.00, we will examine the following scenarios:
              – Johnny right now can afford the purchase of a house if he decides to pay with full cash
              – By Spring 2016, Johnny still will be able to afford the purchase of a house if he decides to pay with full cash BUT he may need an additional $20K loan from a financial institution
              – By Summer 2016, Johnny still will be able to afford the purchase of a house if he decides to pay with full cash BUT he may need an additional $60K loan from a financial institution
              – By Fall 2016, Johnny still will be able to afford the purchase of a house if he decides to pay with full cash BUT he may need an additional $100K loan from a financial institution
              – By Winter 2016, Johnny still will be able to afford the purchase of a house if he decides to pay with full cash BUT he may need an additional $150K loan from a financial institution
              – By Spring 2017, Johnny still will be able to afford the purchase of a house if he decides to pay with full cash BUT he may need an additional $200K loan from a financial institution

              By Fall of 2017 Johnny’s retirement savings will be worth less than 30% from its current value.
              By Spring of 2018 Johnny’s retirement savings will be worth nothing.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnSLiFd0fb4

              • In other news …. I told this community more than two years ago that the dollar would get stronger as we reached the end of the business cycle, and that interest rate increases would magnify the problems of the BRIC’s.

                I took a lot of flack from the dollar haters here and the financial illiterates, who don’t know the difference between shit and apple butter.

                Rates have yet to increase but I suggested (in late August) that these long overdue rate hikes would occur after government funding / refinancing was complete at the end of its fiscal year (September); citing a likely 25 bp increase in December or January. Such an increase would not have any real impact upon the economy or the markets.

                http://beforeitsnews.com/gold-and-precious-metals/2015/11/worst-economic-impact-still-to-come-feds-fischer-warns-as-dollar-soars-to-12-year-highs-2699292.html

                More than two years later the dollar is still KING and it is still wielded as the weapon of choice by the NWO, while all of the BRIC’S grovel at its feet.

                China will play by the RULES of the CLUB, or it will not get to play. 🙂

                • Governments are the worst mass murderers. Who is surprised that government is the worst thief?

          • Menzo, I’m with you all the way on that one. I’m the only one who decides whether I give up anything I own. If I make my own decision to do so, that’s one thing. If someone tries to take something from me by force, that’s another. They will die, period. And I don’t care who they are or what they’re wearing.

            • Yes Braveheart. I made up my mind quite a while back what I would do if they ever come in force to my home. They will never see it coming no matter what they bring.

              • As the saying on the bumper sticker goes: “Don’t Steal, The Government Hates Competition”

                • IRS is the biggest thief of all time.
                  Income tax = theft. They didn’t earn it, you did.

                  • Nobama, you ain’t just whistling Dixie on that one. And that’s 24/7/365.

              • Hey guys – They don’t “come in force to my home.” This is more ubiquitous than that.

                They pull you over for a traffic infraction or something mundane like that, then while you’re out of the car they search it. If you have cash on you or in your car they take it. You will already be disarmed after the cop initially demands to know if you are armed and you are required by law to tell him.

                • I’m required by my God given rights for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness to outwit the pigs. Not going to tell them anything. If they were to actually find out for sure that I’m armed, it would be because I had already used the weapon against them. This ‘law abiding citizen’ shit has got us in this damn mess to begin with. Sheeple no more. I remain in the same mindset always. Pigs have had their training, so have I.

        • THINK ABOUT THIS MOTHERFUCKERS

          Under the Sharia, Muslims cant charge each other interest. If you cant charge interest there is no motivation for investment and therefore no competitive productive economy is possible and therefore no innovation will take place. The only option a Muslim has to get wealthy is by robbing, subjugating, and taxing other races of people. Muslims never invented a damn thing in 1400 years. It’s a bullshit fairy tale that Muslims invented algebra. Indians did that. Muslims burned 90% of the books in the land they invaded. In Europe 50% of Muslim men and 70% of Muslims women don’t work. They live on welfare. The Koran says the Kafir must work as a slave to support the Muslim. THEY FEEL NO SHAME AT BEING ON WELFARE, unlike a white man. Yet the governments say the motivation behind mass immigration is to help the economy.

          THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE WHATSOEVER BETWEEN ISLAM AND COMMUNISM

          Further, I’ve spoken ad nauseam about the history of Islam and slavery. Islam drove the slave trades in Europe (Islam took 1 million slaves from white Europe), they controlled the shipping of blacks to America, and the eastern coast of Africa had a black slave trade 10x the size of the west Africa slave trade.

          THERE IS NO IDEALOGICAL DIFFERENCE WHATSOEVER THE HATRED OF ISLAM FOR OTHER CULTURES AND THE NAZI HATRED FOR OTHER CULTURES.

          THEREFORE

          ISLAM IS THE PERFECT HYBRID BETWEEN FASCISM AND COMMUNISM.

          If I said I am a Nazi in public the sheeple would be outraged b/c they have been conditioned by Jewish hollywood to think Nazis are bad. If I said I am a Bolshevik people wouldn’t know what that is b/c 9 of the 12 founding Bolsheviks were Jewish, and Jewish Hollywood has never done hardly any movies about Bolshevism (Eisenstein actually glorified the Bolsheviks).

          But somehow when people say they are Muslims we are supposed to be “welcoming” and “respectful”.

          WOULD YOU BE RESPECTFUL TO A FUCKING NAZI OR A BOLSHEVIK MOVING IN NEXT DOOR TO YOU? NO? BECAUSE MUSLIMS ARE THE PERFECT HYBRID BETWEEN THE TWO.

          This dumbassery of the white race has got to be fucking stopped. It’s gone on for far too long. These stupid fucking pussies and fucktards are going to get you killed.

          WHEN YOU LOSE TO ISLAM, YOUR CIVILIZATION GETS FUCKING ANNHIALATED. DONT YOU EVER FUCKING FORGET THAT.

          You ass bitches keep playing me out as a madman, but I know what I’m fucking talking about.

          • I see fire insurance getting very expensive 😉

            • Yep…

              And the extracurricular phenomena of “jewish-lightning” per resulting (arson) fires..tends to have a detrimental effect on the profits of said insurance companies.

              Hence, ’tis merely another approach to empty the wallets of the productive gentile stiffs…plodding along, on ZOG’s treadmill.

          • Acid, another damn good post and you won’t hear me dispute anything in it. You really do know what you’re talking about. Keep those posts coming. You’re doing damn good.

          • Acid Etch,

            Very good post. Books can be written on the subject. Those fanatics still practice slavery and hope to enslave all that have not converted. Recently a man discovered his wife was not a virgin and he killed the other man and ate his genitals to find solace. This is the way they think. Kerry was trying to justify and rationalize the motivation of the Hebdo murderers but is backtracking now, but in reality the left has been doing that for a long time. They justify all kinds of atrocities if it suits their purposes. Just like the muslims, the left, the progressives, the democrats, the communists, are extremely intolerant of others who think differently than them. We really need to think clearly and reject the fuzzy thinking being perpetrated on the world by the universities and the MSM. Americans are beginning to catch on to the the ruse of the left.

          • Like I said yesterday Acid my hat goes off to you sir, you are indeed informed, keep it comin.

          • Dearest Acid…….I’ve almost always agreed with you but did double check the facts as could be done. You’re often right…..regardless of negative comments.
            I’m thinking your verbal abuse is that you’re sitting around with your buddies…..just shooting the bull. But guess what? We’re all reading this and if you were talking to me in my Living Room I’d slap the silly right out of you.
            I do indeed respect most of your comments but would it be too much to ask you to tone down your language? I’d so much appreciate working with you than against.
            Side Note: Passive, agressive (on both sides).

            • X2!

          • An honest investment involves labor and risk.

            Lounging behind a desk creating ‘money’ from thin air and then demanding more in return is not “investment.” Usury (profiting on a simple loan of money) is parasitism and, sooner or later, it kills the host. Of course that doesn’t matter to people whose hateful definitions of “man” and “neighbor”nullify God’s Law against usury.

            Like Christianity did for nearly 2,000 years, Islam opposes both usury and sodomy. The creed of the money-changers, however, has a soft spot for sodomy and usury. Scroll to the “Torah on Sodomy…” and “Against Usury” threads on my website.

          • You do have some good input. Just clean up the language a little…people might take you a little more seriously.

        • http://www.thedailysheeple.com/you-know-what-the-isis-soda-can-bomb-means-america_112015

          Get ready to have your travel restricted. ISIS blew up the Russian plane with a beer can bomb. Guess the no liquids rule wasn’t so dumb after all.

          http://www.thedailysheeple.com/french-president-hollande-welcomes-30000-refugees-in-wake-of-paris-attacks_112015

          Strengthen your security even as you import 30,000 more Mosse Limb bastards who want to destroy your civilization.

          Is there a word for suicidal genocide? Autogenocide?

          We need a white power movement now like the blacks needed a black power movement in the 60’s. Think about it.

          http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6915/europe-muslim-enrichment

          READ AND LEARN

        • The vast majority of serious crimes go unsolved.

          “The cops are just doing their jobs.”

          Yeah dickhead, except that they’re not.

          “If you get into trouble, call a crackhead if you don’t like cops.”

          Uh-huh. Because the cops are so competent I’m sure they could help me out.

          Some many dumbass ideas. No availability for a capslock rage.

          I hate being a philosopher.

          • Acid:

            Thank you for your input. I don’t think you are crazy. Sometimes you get carried away cursing but sometimes I have to admit you are right in spite of the language. How about we go back to America 1900. Plenty of open land, Cowboys and Indians. And no f:::::::cling terrorists.

            • B from CA, I actually like acid’s input now. There’s no stopping him from getting carried away with the insults using the caps lock most of the time, but He’s really been on a roll with some good posts. Hell, I’m actually overlooking his faults now.

            • We ain’t played Cowboys and goat fuckers yet

              • ❤❤❤❤❤

              • we will……SOON!

          • Acid, those ‘brainwashing centers’ as I call them depend on the student loans to pay the bills. cut off the loans and they’d have to shut down.

            • Stop attending their curriculum and they’ll shut down. Ending loans means only rich families could afford to get a college education…as if that’s not a problem already.

        • http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/11/dartmouth_official_apologizes_to_protesters_for_negative_media_coverage_of_library_demonstration.html

          EU WANTS TO BAN GUNS

          Except for my beloved Svizzera. The safest country in Europe with the highest gun ownership rate (30%).

          We love you, Switzerland. The last home of the white race.

          http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-18/humpday-humor-obamas-syrian-refugee-entrance-form

          Ovomit calls opposition to Amerabia “political posturing”.

        • The Police; Are NOT your friends!

      2. Still want to call a cop?

        • I would not call the pigs for any reason.

          • agreed

          • People who travel to third world countries have frequently told me that the last thing you want to do is get the police involved in any situation.

            FerFal said that he got a bad beating because he didn’t bribe the cop who pulled him over for a traffic violation.

            I now see the police as a well armed gang that is above the law!

            • They are playing cops and… err ARE robbers!

              • Genius, That was a good one!

              • now that’s FUNNY right there, genius…I don’t care WHO yuh are!

      3. Hmm I guess that post was worth repeating lol.

      4. As retired law enforcement, and having strong ties to that community, I tell people NOT to carry more cash than you can afford to lose. A routine traffic stop can, and often does, result in Civil Forfeiture. You have the burden of proof to PROVE that the money was legally obtained, and to do that you need an attorney, and it will probably cost more than it’s worth. THAT’s why it’s routinely done now.
        And every level of government benefits from it, right down to the individual cop.
        Sign of the times.

        • Yup I know a guy that got stopped and had 3 rifles and 13K in cash in his truck. Cost him 3K for lawyer to get it back. He isn’t the brightest guy in the world lol.

          • Genius:

            When traveling with large amounts of cash you have got to hide it. Some places to hide cash are inside the seams of clothing (wash first as Dogs can smell traces of cocain which is on most bills). Another is in crevices of the car. Hide-a-key containers with magnets can hold $$$.

            Hiding rifles might take a little more work. Perhaps car manufacturers could come up with some ideas. It would give them an advantage in future sales. People are lazy. Most of the time a cop just like any thief will just take from the obvious places; unless you have given them reason to target you for harassment. Then they might tear up your car or home for sport.

            • I agree BC, If I was traveling with a bunch of cash there is about a .01% chance they would ever find it. There are a LOT of places in a vehicle to hide small items. Look under the hood for some good ones.

            • Put the items inside an oil proof container then dip the container in automotive oil.

            • Except for now they train their dogs to SNIFF OUT CASH as well as drugs. Go to nevergetbusted.com

            • Yep. There are ingenious ways to hide everything. One of my travel hides for cash is rolls tucked inside cardboard tampons placed back in the wrappers and inside the little box. No male thief wants to go anywhere near that…lol.

              • on a side note…according to my wife, tampons are not an “acceptable” birthday present!….who knew?

        • No way I’m giving up anything to any cop, period. I don’t play the “shakedown” game. Like the retired “old school” cops used to say, “cops aren’t supposed to be dirty.” Today’s breed are not to be trusted, especially with their anti-public mentality. I don’t plan on losing any cash or anything else to any crooked cop, period. While I’m not looking for any kind of trouble, I will defend myself if I’m attacked.

        • It’s a fu$king thief, no more.

      5. And none yet arrested
        Boy are we ever slacking

      6. Gee… does this total include Obama crony Jonny Boy Corzini? How about Solyndra? Does it count the money spent on uber-luxe vacations by Michelle-Marie Antoinette “Let them vacation in Aruba” Obungler?

        Just curious

        • TEST.
          If I knew these fuckers were visiting me then… I’d gladly take ’em for every penny they’ve fuckin’ got.

          BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

      7. The more broke it becomes the more desperate the tactics become. They want it ALL.

      8. Newest cop ploy to hit our area: High beams coming at you. You flash your lights to signal high beams. Two seconds later, you’ve got a cop car swinging around to stop you for “traffic violations.” Don’t bother flashing your high beams at anybody if you want to save yourself from the tax collector.

      9. I would never call 911
        for a cop. Fire or medical
        yes. Cops no.
        I’m giving testimony this week
        asking to relive my police chief and
        deputy chief for violation
        of USC title 18 section 242
        “Deprivation of rights under color
        of law”.

        I have called cops once in my life,
        only because I didn’t want to kill
        the prowlers. I held them at gunpoint.
        The cop did a really good job of explaining
        to them why they were still alive.
        Basically he said I was a cheap ass and
        didn’t want to hire a lawyer for charges that
        would be dropped. I never talk or lie to cops.

      10. Law enforcement is the number 2 biggest scumbag thieves. The number 1 thief is the Federal Reserve!

      11. Bring on the EMP, what more do we have to lose?
        Total chaos reigns now.
        One thing about where I live: cops are afraid to pull people over, too many illegal guns (because they’ve been outlawed for so long, the black market is quite efficient) and besides that, they aren’t paid enough to risk their lives pulling someone over for traffic violations.
        It’s actually a good system where the police respect the population.
        Very little, if any civil forfeiture here.
        But when SHTF, it WILL be TOTAL anarchy.

      12. In the past the Italian Mafia and other gangster organizations sent affiliates to join the force. So the next time somebody says “May the force be with you”, realize just how brainwashed your friend really is.

        • Just like we need eyes and ears on the inside of LE. Sarge is a good one and I hope others turn from the dark side and gather intel for us too. The nwo has moles everywhere, we should too!

          • “G”
            Thanks. I wasn’t going to commit on this, but all Cops are not the same. like Me I don’t believe in asset forfeiture. Fine them for their crime and then leave them alone. In my book once you done the time or paid the fine you are just another person walking the street. I don’t hold anything against them. One exception pedophilias.

            By the way, it has been very quiet lately. That scares me a little. Just keep your eye open and your weapons loaded.

            Sgt.

            • Sarge, I have the same feeling but I think things will heat up soon. Thanksgiving and Black Friday are next week. Something tells me there will be trouble around that time.

            • Sarge.

              I’ve been prevented from giving kudos..per your hunt! Moderator has jammed my ass into ‘Posting Purgatory” & sits on manifold posts even now..

              ..anyway congrats, sir..got mine this afternoon, a 4-pointer also, using (of all things)..a Polish-Calvary 7.62x54R w/ open sights/+100yds..Btw, used your powder recommendation. Thanks.

              • Hunter:
                You are welcome. Those little rifles shoot great. Was going to use my sporter 91/30 that I built, but I killed out with my 742 308. The first day.
                Sgt.

              • I have had several emails from friends showing comments hey have sent to SHTF that showed they were being moderated. Those comments NEVER were posted.

                Others say they go to post comments and they SIMPLY DISAPPEAR INTO THIN AIR.

                Looking back through subjects there was a long discussion of whether SHTF’s moderators censored comments. Many of the posters who have been here a long time seemed to “laugh” at that suggestion.

                So what is happening to the posts that are in moderation for days or the ones that simply disappear. Mere coincidence? Or moderator decisions? Leave the censorship and the PC to the MSM.

                • This is Macs website and he can choose what kind of comments can be deleted or not. He has a set of rules applied also, and they are extremely generous when you consider some of the commentary involved. In all likelihood if they were deleted it was because they were too extreme. People that complain about the way it operates should start their own websites if they aren’t comfortable about the way it is here, contrary to popular opinion, you don’t have the right to say whatever you want to here, it is after all, a private site operated for profit by the owner. Sometimes there’s a problem with the system that scans for spammers, which there’s a constant barrage of here also, so there are times it’s a mistake made by the system and not censorship.

                • Indeed! The kosher thought police patrol heavily. They allow enough to give the appearance of openness, but MUCH is censored, especially posts that are well-referenced.

                  • And if you don’t like it so much, you can always leave and go back to your own website, can’t you? Or maybe you just get depressed by the lack of traffic on your site you’re forced to come here and do your whining. Hang it up, jp, your act is stale, it’s starting to get really boring, it’s all the Jews fault, I’m being censored, wah wah wah, nobody listens to me, { that one is true, save for your small band of even smaller minded idiots who have zero for a life. No need to name them, everybody knows their stench here already.

                • I can’t remember EVER having a post not show up, and I CAN be kinda’ rude…when I WANT to be. I just wonder if those posts not showing up …..maybe that was justified?….I’ve seen LOTS of posts that I WOULD delete if it was MY site.

      13. A traffic stop, ticket or court appearance is a way to get law abiding citizens into the system. In my area a person that got a speeding ticket could take a class, pay the fine and the violation would go away. Now people have to get permission per the courts before they are allowed to do this. More intrusion.

      14. Off topic, Wasn’t everybody supposed to be wiped out by the Ebola plague about this time last year?

        • cough cough cough, ya!

        • Anonymous:

          Ebola is on the back burner in a Petri dish of one of Zio-america’s thousands of bio-warfare labs. I here Irac plans to invade us because we have weapons of mass destruction. They will be right at home with the Syrians, Somalis, North African hordes coming to Rape and ravage. Have a nice day and call a cop. Hillary said adults “should go to camp”.

      15. This is why the public need to be afraid to go out on Black Friday and stay home. They won’t buy stuff the gov won’t get sales tax $ out of purchases. The wife said to me I’m not gonna go out on Black Friday I said good she said there isn’t really any deals anyway. Now if everyone stayed home and didn’t buy cheap junk the peak $ making season for the retail and gov crooks would be a flop for them and a win for us. Boycott Black Friday. The Islamic savages are running loose looking for crowds on black eye day. Fuck Uncle Sam it’s my $ can’t have shit.

        • “black eye day”…that was a new one to ME. thanks for the laff!

        • Satori:

          I bet the next pandemic is man made. There are bugs being developed to attack certain races and not others. The SARS out of China did nothing against Europeans, Africans, others. It only targets genes carried by Asians. It could be a test case. TPTB are playing God.

          The Sunami in Japan. The Japanese refused to destroy their particular cultural and genetic distinctness by allowing “integration/immigration/(invasion). I respect their courage. I wonder if that Sunami was really naturally occurring. The more I learn, the more questions I have.

        • i’ll see YOUR years salary, and RAISE you a pair of 60 year old tonsils, my ex-wifes alimony, and a milkshake I got on layaway at mcdonalds that it starts in murica…..and i’ll throw in a perfectly working spleen, to boot!

      16. I just checked the Baltic Dry Index, and it’s just a few points above the lowest point of the last 5 years. It will probably break that record low Thursday or Friday.

        I won’t leave the house on Black Friday, but I might order a couple of sale items online. In fact, I won’t be going to any shopping centers at all until maybe early next year.

        • Yep.

          But who needs container ships loaded with Christmas junk anyway.

          Santa will deliver all that stuff in his sleigh in one night for free.

      17. I have no doubt that the big hauls on asset forfeiture are dope dealers. Its the taking of assets W/O going to court and being found guilty is the problem. Thats were the law abiding get caught up in this.

      18. I find myself thinking… Fuckme!… If the authorities are SO desperate to hard-hand their cut from the little I manage to earn bye the sweat of my brow then they’re friggin’ welcome to it…. Here, friggin’ take it you fuckin’ desperate cunts.

        SADSACKS.

      19. I am not worried I have nothing anyway.

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