How to Stop ISIS: “Every Time There Is a Terrorist Attack, CUT Budgets of Intelligence Agencies”

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    This article was written and originally published by Washington’s Blog.

    Editor’s Comment: As far as terrorism goes, it remains true that nearly every major attack is well timed and well scripted to maximize power. The United States and other governments have used these crises to demand more power from its people; they have used it to launch wars and justify drones, missiles, soldiers and especially domestic surveillance systems. Relatively few people have resisted this massive intrusion, and with every new event more and more money is poured into the budgets of the intelligence agencies and military agencies who are supposed to keep us safe, but who rarely if ever catch or stop an attack. The simple reason? The shock value, and the media narrative it creates. A completed attack is much more value than a failed or averted attack.

    As Washington’s Blog notes, this surveillance system really puts government in the position to know all about the activities of its society, but unlike the Stasi they can do it rapidly, in near real time, and in detail that would have been incomprehensible to past regimes. The misuse of this data is built into the system, and many individuals have already been harassed and persecuted by it. Think of the incredible changes this policy would make (*if it were ever allowed): “Every time there is a terrorist attack, what we really need to do is demand that they cut the budgets of all the intelligence agencies. And, if they still keep failing, then we need to get rid of them and start the process again with new agencies and new managers.”

    Imagine how quickly phony terrorist groups like ISIS would fall if things worked that way.

    Top NSA Whistleblower: “Every Time There Is a Terrorist Attack, What We Really Need to Do Is Demand that They CUT the Budgets of All the Intelligence Agencies”

    by Washington’s Blog

    The highest-level NSA whistleblower in history – William Binney – the high-level NSA executive who created the agency’s mass surveillance program for digital information, 36-year NSA veteran widely regarded as a “legend” within the agency, who served as the senior technical director within the agency, and managed thousands of NSA employees – has a great suggestion for motivating U.S. intelligence agencies to prevent terrorism.

    Binney tells Washington’s Blog:

    If you want to get into the real reason politicians, companies and agencies are hard over advocates for mass/bulk surveillance, then you need to look at all the money involved. It’s about 100 Billion (that’s with a B) per year.

    When NSA Director Alexander said their objective is to “collect it all”, then that simply exposed the underlying reason for all this spying. That committed the government to collecting an ever increasing year-by-year amount of data which takes an ever increasing year-by-year amount of money to do. And to achieve that, they use fear mongering and lies to mislead and bamboozle us into letting them take more and more of our money to achieve very little. [Background.]

    So, every time there is a terrorist attack, what we really need to do is demand that they cut the budgets of all the intelligence agencies. And, if they still keep failing, then we need to get rid of them and start the process again with new agencies and new managers. It could be as simple are removing the top 4 layers of management at an agency and replacing them with external people drawn from professional ranks not related to politics or government.

    Mass collection on everybody, of course, makes government (including FBI, DEA, DHS, IRS, CIA …) all knowing like a J. Edger Hoover on super steroids or an all knowing Stasi with more complete, accurate, timely, mineable/interrogateable, stored electronic files. This does make the government all knowing and in a position to manipulate and control people just like the KGB or the Stasi did.  [Background.]

    Also, it represents a total flip of the founding principles of our country. We were supposed to know what the government was doing in our name; the government was not supposed to know what we were doing unless they had probable cause to look at us. [Background here, here and here.]

    But, that takes a mainstream media that wants to do their job and keep the public informed.

    Postscript: In ancient China, traditional Chinese doctors only got paid as long as their patients remained healthy. If the patients got sick, they stopped paying their doctors.

    Binney’s proposal is arguably analogous … pay the intelligence agencies so long as they are bolstering our defenses and keeping our national security “healthy”;  stop paying them if we get attacked.

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      1. I have a better idea. Stop paying the fed reserve and print our own currency. Gee I wonder how many problems that would get rid of asap lol.

        • Here’s my strategy: Every time there’s a “terrorist attack” or “mass shooting” incident (false flag event), buy more ammo. Keep stacking. Someday they’ll stop this horseshit, maybe.

          • To a man and woman, people that have survived economic collapses around the world, when asked what number one item they wish they had stored more of before the collapse was……………food!

              • JQP:

                Probably one of the most enlightening articles about the worldwide bankster fraud and their go-for Soros.

                Should be read by anyone who wonders what has happened to the world.

                Soros and his gangster/bankster friends will someday reap the whirlwind of hell for what they have done to all mankind.

            • well all you have to do is taint ALL the food supplies with PORK and make sure they KNOW all the food is tainted and they will have to eat it or starve and if they eat it then they have to kill themselves!! end of story

          • Nobama, I’m going to keep stacking regardless of what happens.

            • Mr. Binney is on to something…now the problem is getting the bought-and-paid-for and blackmailed-outta-their-minds congresspeople to pass the bill.

              I know, never gonna happen.

          • Amen to that. The terrorist boogeyman has gotten old. Because of this so called boogeyman we now have the TSA and every alphabet soup agency spying on our asses while cranking up the tyranny. All these government criminals want is to scare you so you can hand over more of your freedoms.

        • Who else thinks farook looks stoned in the photo splashed all over ?

        • I have a better idea than that, why not the citizens of each state arrest their leaders and try them for treason.

        • how about this thought – muslim terrorists play by no rules- we impose rules on how we play- so, create anti terrorist cells that have no rules restraints – when ever terrorist or their supporters are identified – anti terrorist cells kill every member (man, woman, children)of their families

          • We have one Ed, the problem is that they think we are the terrorist

        • It got rid of JFK back in 1963!

        • Genius,here is a dilemma my “friend” is in,you might have a good idea how to handle it.My “friend”got from another friend a 600 count of 5.56 ammo,great you say!Well,here is the issue,you guessed it,tis federal!My friend said thanks and all,but,should he let his friend know the error/get new friends/what?!I am confused as what to tell my “friend”!

      2. Yeah, I like the idea of slicing the spook’s budget.

        But, can someone with common sense answer me a simpler question:

        How in the name of Heaven can all this spying be done–everywhere you go–travel, transact, buy/sell, vacation, cell phone calls, computer emails, everywhere some government alphabet-soup agency is spying on you–AND STILL THERE IS TERROR?

        The “batting average” for the spymasters is pretty durn low. We ought not to pay for poor or non-existent services.

        • Its not about stopping terror. It is about the leftist dream of totalitarian control. “War on terror” is just a label that is placed on these activities.

          Yes, it really is that simple.

        • To be fair, they don’t tell the public of the attacks they prevent.

          • Oh, yes, they tell the media all about the ones they initiate with stings, lining up some patsy with the motive. (Portland, Or. for example.)

          • That’s because they don’t prevent any that they didn’t set up in the first place.

            • Bingo!

        • Better yet, just scrap the intelligence agencies, especially CIA and NSA. CIA are the ones who have been bringing drugs into this country since the 50s.

          • Another “alphabet agency”, another name for MOSSAD:

            Israeli (I)
            Secret (S)
            Intelligence (I)
            Service (S)

        • How in the name of Heaven can all this spying be done–everywhere you go–travel, transact, buy/sell, vacation, cell phone calls, computer emails, everywhere some government alphabet-soup agency is spying on you–AND STILL THERE IS TERROR?
          More money added to the budget!!!!

      3. They are playing dumb they knew what they were up to in Cal and money motivates just put up rewards and remove restrictions new hunting season in the wild west bounties rewards ect

      4. It is time to end the bullshit. The current system is broken beyond repair. The country is run like an inner city McDonald’s. Nig nogs fucking everything up every hour of every day.

      5. I have a better idea. How about if you see something suspicious, report it. Stop being worried you will offend someone. I am sick and tired of all the whining bullshit in this country. Man up. Protect your families. Learn to fight. Learn to shoot. Learn to live with few resources. There is a war waging in this country. Know what the signs of it are before we’re all victims.

      6. I hope someone is recording all this evidence. We’ll bring the rope.

      7. Time for some leadership to turn these outfits around. Fire a few top people… the others fall into line.

        • Remember that these are the same people who literally have all the dirt on everyone who might be doing the firing…

          • And this is the precise reason Obummer and the Clinton’s are not in jail today. They have enough dirt on others in power they would drag down lots of them with them. It’s thug style government at its finest.

      8. When they burned the Jordanian pilot in the cage, we should have covered that whole area in Napom.
        Fight fire with fire. When they drowned the hostages from the west by lowering cages into water, we should have captured twice as many as they drowned and waterboarded them for info before we dumped them in the ocean and hovered over them with at blackhawk until they don’t come back up. Then have the CIA post the videos to the ISIS web….

        Until we start fighting this war with WWII bravado, we will loose.

      9. You’d have to cut the entire government. They’re all in on it, so long as they have the power to tax people and, as long as people obey them, the powers-that-be and their elite masters can use “government” to attack the people for political purposes.

      10. Economic analysis of terrorist organisations shows that they will collapse and cease to exist without some form external funding. Many could be eliminated simply by choking off the funds supplied by States (US, Saudi, Turkey, Qatar).

        • Even if the US cut off funding, they’ll still get money from the sandniggers in Saudi, Qatar, and Turkey.

      11. Every time people screw up they blame it on lack of funding. That’s bullshit and we all know it.

        Obama has been collaborating with the Muslims and it was only after three days of intense media pressure did the FEDS begrudgingly admit this was a terrorist act.

        The FBI today said they were not investigating anybody else in regards to the California attacks.

        But the next door neighbor reports that several men were seen working in the shop with the terrorist. WHO THEY HELL ARE THOSE PEOPLE AND WHY AREN’T THE FEDS LOOKING FOR THEM?

        • news said they quit looking for the actual shooters since there were only two and they are dead, and it is an ongoing investigation. That’s why they took the computers and cell phones and records to find out who was in on the attack and supplying these two information and supplies. Police don’t tell you everything they know, for they don’t want to tip off the persons they are looking for.

          • To find out, no.

            To Cover up. Yes

      12. What do you bet the AR-15s the terrorists used were purchased during the Fast and Furious gun walking operation.

      13. In Nigeria, I think, they have adopted another solution. Every time muslims kill one of them, they kill 25 muslims.

        No PC faggotry. They kill the enemy.

      14. A story I learned 18 years ago about America and the USA.

        THE END

      15. We are really in one screwed up state of affairs…

        The homeland (no longer America) created ISIL, then pretended to oppose ISIL…

        Then Russia really went to war with ISIL and Barry came unglued…

        Then Barry is talking about the fact ISIL is contained, hours before ISIL openly goes to war in downtown Paris…

        Then Barry says no problemo, ours shores are safe from ISIL hours before we have the deadliest terror attack on homeland soil since 9/11…

        Three days later Barry is still trying to spin it as “workplace violence” and talking about how taking guns away from law abiding citizens will somehow remove the ability of terrorist to commit jihad??? (Will somebody load Barry’s pipe???..)

        Then it comes to light the terrorist wife swears allegiance to the leader of ISIL on Facebook as they start killing defenseless human beings. Defenseless because of all those encompassing gun laws liberals love, enacted to keep us “safe” and good little victims…

        Barry in the mean time puts his Nobel prize winning, smartest man on earth, mind on the situation and ascertains it’s all due to global warming while in Paris, standing close to the scene of the first slaughter…

        After that, the FBI (because they had no choice) announces it is in fact terrorism and Barry has to eat all of the crap he was spewing earlier and go hide in the laundry room and have a smoke…

        The homeland created ISIL, created the refugee crisis, furthering a world with no borders, with one government and one religion, with equality and poverty for all…

        Note to self-
        Today the media reported 200,000 plus jobs created and we’re at 5% unemployment and the market shot up…

        Just don’t look at the 94 plus million of Americans no longer in the pool. After all, that’s only a third of us???…

        Could I have another Jack and coke?, and matter of fact forget the coke and make it a double…

        • Good post 1Vet

      16. We are at war, war with Islam, war even with our own Government(s). Gen Patton was fond of saying about war, “Don’t die for your cause, get the other dumb bastards to die for theirs”.

        To the average American/European/Christian/Western citizen I say, prepare for war….BECAUSE IT’S HERE!

      17. Amos; bingo!

      18. Whenever you are attacked like that and you are not packing you are skrewed help is minutes
        Away and when it finally arrives they are just a mop up crew………

      19. HJS I think Farook looks that way because he is dead, it looks like a lifeless mug shot to
        Me…………

      20. Deport the family of Farook ,we should not allow known terrorist tied family to remain in US
        As a deterrent to these attacks. They died thinking their family would remain here safe and sound their child no less. I do not believe they had no knowledge of what bloodshed was about to
        Come they raised a terrorist. They lie it’s what they do………

      21. What happened to terrorist number three? They probably do not want us to know he exists
        Because he may be used to extract information from. ( tortured ) Hope he never turns up
        So no trial,just disappeared……….

      22. In addition to cutting their budget, I would also cut all foreign aid to the country the attackers came from.

      23. We are going to be living with terrorism for a long time. You can bet it will escalate within our boarders. The polarize view to disarm and to arm people will continue and the terrorist will keep doing what they want to us. Home grown radicals combine with refugees will contaminate the Moderate Muslims if you can call them that.

        Did you see the Load Bearing Gear? How many Magazines? The Rifles were set up well with scopes.

        What the hell do you have to take the fight to them?

        Many are talking about preparing for war. You better think of what gear you need cause by the look of the gear, these two had they means to take the fight to us.

        And look what they did to the those Christmas celebrating people.

        It took 380 rounds and how many trained police men to take them down.

        They had approx. 400 to 500 rounds between the 16 mags. .223 and 30 more 9mm. Your might have 15 rounds 9mm or ,40 cal or ,45 cal. Hoping another conceal carry is somewhere near you to help.

        Forget the Bravado. Better think this through good.

        • Practice, practice, practice. I put about 500 rounds a month downrange. I know where my shots go. The average LEO maybe puts 500 rounds OR LESS downrange a year. This is why supposedly well trained LEO’s have a dismal hit rate in the neighborhood of 10-15%.

        • Between the two of them they fired about 75 rounds at the Christmas party and another 75 or so during the car chase and final shootout.

      24. The criminal heads and management of ALL so-called Intelligence Agencies in the vile evil disgusting fascist GENOCIDAL shithole of America need to be arrested for their conspiracy to destroy and collapse the Corporatist Fascist shithole of America by design, and for the New World Order de-population agenda. Arrest ALL the coward pussy Zombie boot licking trash in the alphabet agencies of criminal scum, who ARE CLEARLY COMPLICIT in the takeover and softkill genocide of our dying dumbed down disease ridden population in the collapsing Orwellian Fascist Police State hellhole nightmare of the world.

      25. Any sherrifs on here should talk to the county board and have a free conceal carry permit day open to the public. That would get you some notoriety for reelection hell prob even make national news on fox

      26. Cut budgets? How about firing them first? Along with firing them and replacing them with non-political agents, let us carry guns in gun free zones and label them Kill Zones Against Terrorists.

      27. Lets talk about little billy it seems that little billy is addicted to pornography of fear and paranoia we must adress this as a village in order to raise him as a village we must get him treatment for his porn a graphic addition and send him to therapy camp at the fema treatment center

      28. There are things about this that indicate something wrong about the investigation:

        Initially the White House emphatic refusal to admit it was an Islamic terrorist attack.

        The initial reports of three shooters simply disappearing when Farook and Malik were shot (just disappeared as near as near as I can tell, not announced or explained as being wrong).

        Obama saying they didn’t know who did it or why well after Farook’s name had already been announced as a suspect.

        FBI and locals making a preliminary search of the terrorist’s apartment then releasing it to the invasion of the news media which destroys any value it has as a crime scene.

        No hunt for those Middle Eastern men seen coming and going from the apartment with packages in a suspicious manner.

        No arrest and/or interrogation of the killers known friends and family the way it seems is standard in every other investigation of this type (think Tsarnayev, where Todashev was actually killed during his interrogation about his involvement with him).

        The refusal of the White House to acknowledge the involvement of ISIS even after it has come to light that Malik pledged allegiance to them and they are taking credit for the attack being done by their followers.

        The widespread claim of the guns being legal in spite of the fact that both of them had been illegally altered and one to be fully automatic. Even the local police are denouncing that “legal” guns claim.

        No one knows who the original purchaser actually was and whether or not he was a straw purchaser or how many other guns he purchased that may have been altered and transferred to other terrorists. Other than the claim he exists, nothing seems to be known and he is not arrested, questioned, or detained if public knowledge sources reflect the situation accurately. (The store claimed to have been where the handguns were purchased says they were not purchased there and no one seems to know where the rifles were purchased. Different sources seem to be saying different things but any information is sketchy and hard to find at best).

        And on and on. Compare this to other shootings like the Colorado theater shooting or Sandy Hook and see the differences.

        This isn’t a false flag -Muslim terrorists really did it for Muslim terrorist purposes- but if what is known and not known is at all is comprehensive and reflects what has gone down so far, then it looks like someone somewhere is being protected from something for some reason.

        Anyone with more or more up to date information should add to or correct anything that is wrong in this post.

      29. Simple: eradicate every fucking Muslim in the USA. This is my country . Not some Mid-East shithole. Be angry. Get mad. Use that energy. Open defiance. Fuck you Obama. You traitor.

      30. UPDATE: Loretta Lynch, at a press conference yesterday, termed the San Bernardino shootings a “wonderful opportunity” to change the nature of police work:

        We’re at the point where these issues have come together really like never before in law enforcement thought and in our nation’s history and it gives us a wonderful opportunity and a wonderful moment to really make significant change.

        WTF??? What an opportunity!!! Never let a crisis go to waste, even if you have to manufacture it!!!)
        If we can just get terrorist to kill more Americans maybe we can get the FEMA camps filled, the re-education programs going and repeal our evil God given rights.

        Then we can take all the guns and shoot them into space (except for of course the guns for criminals, the terrorist, the alphabet soup agencies (I feel better with the FDA being able to go full auto should the need arise) and we can all gather around the burn barrels in the cold and watch the collective’s big screen and chew on grass clippings while we are lectured on the evil amerikan empire and how we narrowly averted disaster from those evil fossil fuels…

        • Yeah, nice of her to use the shooting of nearly 40 people at a Christmas party to call for more gun control. Practically dancing in the blood, she had a hint of a smirk on her face, as well.

          • Well put – practically dancing in blood by the left.

            Exactly

            But it is what we should expect, after the left – which as a whole, is the biggest group of murderers in the history of mankind (see The Black Book of Communism, Courtois, et al, Oxfor Univ. Press), who MURDERED around 100 MILLION last century.

            You see, the ends justify the means, any means. Today we have Fabian socialism, which isn’t quite as violent… unless you count 50 mm babies being torn limb from limb or Zeke Emanuel advocating we turn anyone over 75 into Solyent Green (and that is NO exaggeration – British Columbia, my former home province, was recently outed for telling 7,000 people who had maladies that would kill them in short order that the province was out of money, and they could just go die. So, no… no Pol Pots or Che Guevara’s here – rather, it’s all done by people in ties and nice dresses, with clean fingernails, just “doing their jobs” with Nazi (National SOCIALIST) like efficiency.

          • This gun control rhetoric is aiding and abedding the enemy. They pick gun free zones for a reason.

            Going in and talking about disarming or passing more gun laws gives comfort to these idiots.

            It is nothing less than treason.

      31. Pass the duct tape, my head’s about to blow…

      32. THE SAN BERNARDINO (AND PARIS) ATTACK THAT **WASN’T**

        Anthony Sadler, Spencer Stone and Alek Skarlatos were aboard a high-speed train en route to Paris from Amsterdam on Friday when a gunman opened fire. Along with two others — a French national and a Briton — they charged, tackled and subdued him, officials said. http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/22/europe/france-train-shooting-heroes/
        And as if this wasn’t enough, the Oregon Clackamas Town Center Mall mall shooting – which was overshadowed by the Connecticut school shooting a few days later – was stopped by a citizen, Nick Melti, exercising his right of concealed carry. Full details of this incident – not reported by the lamestream media – are at http://www.examiner.com/article/media-blackout-oregon-mall-shooter-was-stopped-by-an-armed-citizen. Project Avalon gives full details” “He was working on his rifle,” said Meli. “He kept pulling the charging handle and hitting the side.” The break in gunfire allowed Meli to pull out his own gun, but he never took his eyes off the shooter. “As I was going down to pull, I saw someone in the back of the Charlotte move, and I knew if I fired and missed, I could hit them,” he said. Meli took cover inside a nearby store. He never pulled the trigger. He stands by that decision. “I’m not beating myself up cause I didn’t shoot him,” said Meli. “I know after he saw me, I think the last shot he fired was the one he used on himself….We now know that the assailant’s gun had jammed, and when he cleared it, he quickly retreated and shot himself, as Meli continued to keep him in his sights. Not only has the national media refused to acknowledge this aspect of the deadly event, but law enforcement has as well.”

        At the risk of overkill (pun intended), here’s another video of a 65 yr. old woman thwarting FIVE armed robbers with her pistol in her store: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoDNJQtNVoc&feature=player_embedded#t=0s. In fact, it appears to be the case that, as ex-gangsta rap artist turned Christian rap singer Travis Tyler, known as Thi’sl notes, more gun restrictions are not the answer, as this will not stop criminals from getting guns.

        If you want full details about the nuttiness of the gun-grabbers, there is a heavily footnoted FREE paper I wrote about gun control, at https://www.scribd.com/doc/134074309/Gun-Control-Fact-and-Fantasy-April-1 You can copy/paste from this, use it however you wish. Non-violence towards civilians and the innocent should be the calling card of all sane people. But self defense, along with the 2nd Amendment as the Founders envisaged, fully comports with that approach.

      33. Get the rope time to take Washington D. C. back, and place it in the rightful owners hands; WE THE PEOPLE!!!!!!

      34. Yes i like the sound of this plan !

        “This gun control rhetoric is aiding and abedding the enemy. They pick gun free zones for a reason.

        Strange but they never go after Washington D.C and ISIS fighters only go to Israel to get hospital treatment when they are not being sent to Turkey but yes I know, Israel is also in this phony war on terror, they are paying for it since doing a 9-11 on the american public

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