As the narrative quickly formed into one of a “lone wolf” old man who somehow managed to cart 23 rifles up to the 32nd floor of a Las Vegas casino hotel room without nary a photo or security image of him doing so, many balked. But one Australian man knows what he saw, and he saw “multiple gunmen.”
An Australian man who was staying in the room next to the shooter in the Mandalay Bay has confirmed he witnessed multiple gunmen involved in the Las Vegas attack. “There were multiple people dead and multiple shooters. I was just hiding waiting for police to come get us. I got outside safely and was hiding in bushes,” Brian Hodge told Australia’s Courier-Mail. Hodge, who was staying in room 32134, right next door to Stephen Paddock in room 32135, also provided important information when he revealed that a security guard was killed by police. “My floor is a crime scene. They killed a security guard on my floor.”
Witness Wendy Miller, also from Australia, said she too, saw a security guard being chased. She was staying at the Luxor Hotel (next to the Mandalay Bay) with her husband. But they had been at a bar in the Mandalay Bay when she saw what she described as a “man of interest” run by. “We managed to make our way back to our room…” she told The Courier-Mail. “We are in lockdown. Our door is deadlocked and a chair against the door.” Miller said she saw the man sprint through the hotel after coming off an escalator from the Mandalay Bay. “The man that they [security] were chasing was wearing a security jacket like them,” she said.
Many eyewitness reports that don’t match the carefully crafted narrative that is being regurgitated and that we are expected to believe are also being silenced.
Information is being heavily censored on YouTube. Why would police shoot or even chase a security guard? For likely the same reasons that YouTube keeps taking down video evidence of a shooter firing from the fourth floor, substantially and obviously lower than the 32nd floor. The narrative is falling apart.
A screenshot, taken by SHTFPlan, showing one of
the many fourth-floor shooter videos being removed from YouTube.
Watch the video below while you can, as it’s hard to say how long it will be available.
Many reports and eyewitness accounts of people saying they saw more than one shooter are being removed from websites like YouTube. When censorship begins, we know there’s something out there that we aren’t supposed to see. We are supposed to believe the media and obey the government because of this tragedy. “Never let a crisis go to waste,” said Rahm Emmanuel, Barack Obama’s senior advisor.
The media and the government are definitely covering up some of the obvious information. It doesn’t take a genius to see that the story we are being told doesn’t fit. And the more they the powers that be try to explain, the less plausible it all sounds.
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From a couple of videos I saw it looks like it came from 2-3 different sources. One showed shots coming from 4th floor and another from the 10th floor. Was this guy set up or was there more than one shooter? This is starting to smell bad.
@ Jim, I am having trouble getting my head around one man shooting nearly six hundred people. The VC or rag heads were not able to do that to us in any war. The story does not make sense.
I admit this video is interesting. the lower floor window was not broken or else we’d have seen that in daylight videos of the hotel. So my next question would be, are the windows opened on a hinge so they can be cleaned? Is that how someone could have shot from another floor and not broken out the windows like was done on the 32nd floor?
Hmmm well folks, something stinks and is written in Denmark big time. WTF is the true story? Obviously there was muzzle flash from lower levels – clearly way lower than the 32nd floor? SO WTF is going on I ask you?? More Gov’t lies, False Flag, more control, more loss of rights, more gun control, etc, etc. This Gov’t is so out of utter control. Evil, wicked devil-doing dogs.
what I would like to see is footage of the hotel that was taken moments after the 32nd floor stopped shooting.
If the flashes of light continued on the lower floors, we know that it was something else besides gun fire. Light reflection or such like.
If the flashes on the lower floor stop–
well then… interesting indeed. multiple shooters.
Guys, while there is still a lot that does not make sense here, the 4th floor thing is BS. The windows in that hotel do not open and if there was a shooter why are the windows not broken out? My main problem is that even if you have a flash suppressor, at night you would see some muzzle flash and I’ve not seen any in the videos that are out. There are still a lot of things that don’t track in this story. From the info we currently have the profile of this guy does not fit.
Agreed
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look real carefully around the 27 second mark on the 52 second video. you will see muzzle flashes.
Obviously NOT a party light or fire alarm strobe.
Starting to look like a some sort of psy-op. Remove dissenting information and control the narrative.
What has me bothered…I read an article by a person who describes scenes of mass shootings as having “buckets of blood” everywhere.
Here’s a pic of the Bataclan shooting:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/16/12/2E7E565900000578-3319244-image-a-1_1447677437452.jpg
So we have 575+- people shot up in a relatively small area. There should be blood everywhere. Bloody footprints leading from the area. Trails of blood from victims leaving the scene. Given you had 20,000 people at the concert, all with phones/cameras, I would think we would have a lot of video/pics showing a scene similar to the Bataclan. Not trying to be schadenfreude. It just seems there is a lot of facts that do not add up.
schadenfreude
pleasure derived by someone from another person’s misfortune.
The whole gubmit and fake news narrative of the lone white gunman is falling to pieces fast. They need a hurricane or earthquake or something to put this on the back burner, away from a stupefied US populations eyes.
Yes, They were loosing traction on the flag kneeling thing and so this came up all of a sudden. Now you don’t hear anything about that any more. This current “story” is more fishy than a week old fish market.
Wonder what distraction is next? I think a wise person sees all that is happening and knows that something more than what we are being told is up.
You know in the spring when the trees begin to bud that summer is near. From all that we see and hear about now, know that something “BIG” is in the future. At some point all this “stuff” falls in on itself.
Never trust Boob-Tube.
Brian, Wendy, and Wendy’s husband should get their affairs in order.
The numbers of killed and wounded don’t add up. What I mean is that our combat forces have engaged ragheads in Iraq and Afghanistan and the body count and wounded count does not go this high, even with air support. How does one guy do this?
He was lobbing rounds in to an area where 23000 people were packed in like sardines. It doesn’t take an expert to do that. He was simply sticking his gun out the window, pointing it in the right direction and pulling the trigger. Not to minimize the impact on those that were shot; it was pure dumb luck when he scored a hit. Had he been properly trained, I’d bet my last dollar that the death toll would have been much higher.
Yup, guy was shooting 5.56 and 7.62 FMJ rounds, they will all travel through several people even at range
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We’ll never know the truth of the matter. Both Blood and Truth are soaking into the ground.
That’s a very high tech machine gun being used from the fourth floor, being able to shoot through glass windows without breaking them.
I thought that high end technology was restricted to James Bond class government assassins and spy’s.
Or maybe he was a government assassin that had one issued to him?
Will the REAL Paddock please STAND UP?!?!!?
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I’m leaning more towards government brainwashed killer. He brings in far too many guns to use. Kills a bunch of people. And at the first chance of a firefight with cops, kills himself?
I suspect the move to pass laws restricting the amount of guns you can have.
And he killed himself so that the brainwashing won’t get exposed. A firefight with the police could leave a wounded loose end.
He kills bunches of people who haven’t done him any harm, yet ignores the chance to open up on ticket giving cops. Who here doesn’t have some anger towards cops?
Better explanation for all the guns: WEAPONS DEAL WITH JIHADIS GONE BAD (which fits 5 days in the hotel, double room service, etc.)
They kill him and commence to shooting from the double room. He was the predetermined patsy.
The rest fills in rather nicely.
Aside from the embedded videos facts, the proffered photos of the suspect the MSM is using was a predetermined photo, and related photos are scrubbed from internet so that the subject real identity is near impossible to reveal. Reeks of Patsy just like Jack Ruby and Lee Harvey Oswald.
Things do not add up because there is too much subtraction by social media giants. Youtube must answer to complicity to mass murder charges by their tampering with evidence. The removed videos proves multiple shooters. But this will never happen, the docket is full with retrials of the Bunkerville patriots. SOP in the Usurped States of America.
I’d be more inclined to believe this if there were some actual credible links to reporting about it.
Obscure and ill defined sites that claim to be legitimate but don’t demonstrate it are not the best of sources.
Well….it looks like my comments are going to be in moderation in excess of 24 hours……so…..I’ll try again.
Below are my comments from yesterday regarding the plausibility of the shooter being able to kill and wound so many:
I really don’t know why it’s so hard to imagine this guy killing this many people.
It was several seconds and he had already fired off a number of rounds before people even comprehended that there were gun shots. People were jammed together shoulder to shoulder. It would be hard to shoot into a group of people like that and NOT hit someone.
It’s also possible that some of the rounds went through one person and then struck another.
I’m amazed that there weren’t MORE fatalities. Charles Whitman killed or wounded some 42 persons using a bolt action rifle…..and the victims were more spread out over a wider area.
Listening to the shots in the videos, at least one of the rifles used had a lower cyclical rate than an AR-15.
Also….for those who think shots were coming from the 4th or 5th floor……..why aren’t the windows broken out?
There is always the possibility that this was a false flag….I don’t trust the deep state any more than the rest of you. But it’s also possible that this was just a very evil man committing a very evil deed. This guy may simply have been mad at the world….without purpose and hating everyone…..a real misanthrope…..who simply decided that he wanted to inflict as much pain on the rest of us as he could. People like that DO exist. His father was evidently a psychopathic personality as well. Is it it too hard to imagine that apple not falling far from the tree?
I’m also wondering where his live-in girlfriend figures into all of this. I find it interesting that she is evidently out of the country. Did something happen between the two of them?
In my opinion, it is still way to early to come to any kind of definitive conclusions about this. This guy does not fit the standard profile of a mass murderer/shooter. I find it interesting that there is so little known about him. It appears that his family doesn’t even know him that well. It sounds like he was a very private….almost reclusive individual….who spent an inordinate amount of time pursuing a hobby that involved almost no interpersonal relationship with other human beings (online poker).
According to what we heard, he had not definitive religious or political connections. I wonder if that is really true, or was he perhaps just not vocal about his beliefs.
I am open to the possibility of just about anything with this guy……but I don’t think we know enough yet.
Is it not possible that they had a window-washer thing down there in the 4th-floor area? I mean it is dark enough to really hide yourself on the side of the casino.
The windows on the 32nd floor had been broken out because the windows could not be opened. If the windows on the fourth and tenth floors are intact, doesn’t that cast doubt on the second shooter? In the pictures of the building, only the windows on the 32nd floor appear broken out.
My thoughts exactly, however maybe the windows somehow rotate so they can be cleaned easier and if there was a 2nd shooter, they had the key or tool to open the window without breaking it. Don’t know but that would be the only explanation I can come up with to explain a 2nd shooter and no broken window.
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Some youtube videos of the Vegas shooting actually revealed problems with different versions of the official account. Like there are many 9-11 videos on youtube 16 years after that event that blow the official story to shreds. So varying opinions really don’t matter to the controllers, they are dismissed as conspiracy theories and most people buy into that thinking. These people are easily convinced government apologists, that or are not interested in truth because in their thinking it does not affect them. Those sadly remain the majority who go along to get along. So in reality easy pickings to control the majority.
Television showed supposed pictures of the shooter at a antifa protest wearing the pink hat and shirt. The pic was somewhat blurry and I could not make out whether it was him or not. He was standing next to an Asian looking woman. So possibly he will be painted as part of that group.
When Kennedy was murdered, we only heard about the one Zapruder film (while numerous cameras were taken by the police, FBI, etc and NEVER returned nor photos shown to the American people).
This time, we have many cell phone videos.
The families of all those SHOT should band together, hire the nastiest attorney, investigative firms, and SUE the ass off the Vegas Police, FBI, etc for ALL DOCUMENTATION.
I am sure there are some Multi-Millionaire families with dead members that can do this.
DO IT. Don’t let the corrupt American government stop the people this time.
This was NOT one man. This was planned and this was a military operation.
Oh, in 8 hours the FBI rules out any collusion with a foreign entity, but it is taking MONTHS to check out Trump and any collusion? I call this BS
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The broken window issue is not dispositive. Those windows are usually designed to be replaced from inside, so if one breaks, you don’t have to hang outside from ropes trying to fit a 200lb pane of glass precisely.
I’ve seen cases where they wanted to get through them to the outside, in one case for a parrot that flew off a balcony of a neighboring building and landed on the ledge, and a guy with a rechargable drill shows up, takes off forty screws, pulls an aluminum strip with rubber molding from around the edge, and then puts a suction cup handle on the glass, pulls it back, and leans it against a wall. It can be replaced just as fast.
Again, not saying there was a second shooter, but it is not impossible because of the glass issue.
I definitely smell a rat. First, it was the so-called NFL protest. Now it is the shooting. For those who are not aware, Congress and the White House are trying to work out a DACA deal which of course most Americans oppose/
starting at second 27 in the 52 second video definitely shows muzzle flashes in time with the reports. no doubt about it.
The flashes continue in same constant pattern when the shooting stops. It is a light flashing. Not muzzle flash.
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Bill Blain predicts the stock market will do something “interesting” on October 12. I agree that might be the day. A couple of years ago I woke up in the morning and the date October 12 was pounding in my head! Think it was a premonition of some kind. Maybe this is what it means.
Bill Blain predicts the stock market will do something “interesting” on October 12. I agree that might be the day. A couple of years ago I woke up in the morning and the date October 12 was pounding in my head! Think it was a premonition of some kind. Maybe this is what it means.
Mr. Paddock had worked as an accountant. Also worked at one time for Lockheed Martin and the IRS. My guess is he might have had some damning financial “dirt” on some people higher up. Maybe he was being watched…for years. They knew he frequented Las Vegas and “they” decided to build their agenda (gun control?) around Paddock and assassinate him at the same time. Kill two birds with one stone. I don’t think Mr. Paddock fired a single bullet.
Mr. Paddock had worked as an accountant. Also worked at one time for Lockheed Martin and the IRS. My guess is he might have had some damning financial “dirt” on some people higher up. Maybe he was being watched…for years. They knew he frequented Las Vegas and “they” decided to build their agenda (gun control?) around Paddock and assassinate him at the same time. Kill two birds with one stone. I don’t think Mr. Paddock fired a single bullet.
There is a video on Fox made way after the shootings were over that showed the blinking light on the 4th Floor still blinking. It was from a Fire Alarm. There WAS NO shooter on the 4th floor.
Other things may be odd about the situation, but this isn’t one of them.
the flashes are likely reflections of the muzzle flashes which means the shooters were somewhere in the vicinity of the stage
Just because some one is wearing a security guard uniform doesn’t make them a security guard. Anyone can obtain a security guard uniform. This entire thing stinks. And the anti gun folks are overjoyed. I don’t believe the official story.
I don’t believe there was a second shooter because of the whole broken window thing but in any other case we would’ve known wayy more about the shooter and a possible motive… I have a feeling the motive was political… Would NOT surprise me after all the insane slander the Left takes part in! Even the MSM clowns realize most of these ppl were probably Trump Supporters.. Sad that they can get away with such slander.. and really really sad that ppl think they have to “Hunt Republicans” in order to save these imaginary ppl the Left talk about.. Euther way they know wayyy more than they’re letting onto.. Most the ppl on fox with police connections are saying they also believe it was for political motive.. and the video from the room is supposed to show/reveal his motives…
Doesn’t say he SAW multiple shooters. It sounds like he assumed. But it would be good to ask him how he actually saw the shooters when he was in a different room hiding.
Also it says a security guard was killed, when he was only shot in the leg, and in the context he is talking about “the shooters” (Paddock) being the culprit, not the police. This is clear from the Courier-Mail article, so I don’t know how you could misread that.
Settle the matter…
More than one shooter.
And we may never hear the truth.
I’ve read that the bank robber father took off when the Paddock kids were wee tots and they grew up not knowing their father at all. I haven’t a clue how this guy pulled this thing off in a logistical sense, but one of my theories for motive is that he had severe daddy-issues. Mad, hurt and psychologically damaged by his father’s desertion, he weirdly and secretly wanted to be like his Top-10-Wanted-List daddy. So he takes out his anger at his fatherless-life on the world, while at the same time manifesting a psychopathically sympathetic “tip of the hat” to his father’s crime-ridden lifestyle. Yep, I’ve been reading too many psychological-thriller mysteries but its as plausible an explanation as any.
This is the second instance of “someone” targeting republicans so far. Wonder just who those someones might be?