Proponents of man-made global warming have a habit of making frightening predictions that never come true. Every ten years or so, they tells us that within a decade the human race will have destroyed the planet with our carbon emitting vehicles and power plants. They say the same thing every time. The seas will rise several feet, atmospheric temperatures will skyrocket, ecosystems will be obliterated, and human civilization will collapse. And after ten years passes by without incident, they shamelessly make their next prediction.
The latest prediction is perhaps the most outlandish, and it comes from a source that you might not expect.
Famed physicist Stephen Hawking spent part of his 75th birthday celebration warning the public of the potentially catastrophic consequences of US president Donald Trump’s climate change policy.
“We are close to the tipping point where global warming becomes irreversible,” he said yesterday (July 2) in an interview with BBC News. “Trump’s action could push the Earth over the brink, to become like Venus, with a temperature of two hundred and fifty degrees, and raining sulphuric acid.”
Hawking, who directs research at the Centre for Theoretical Cosmology at the University of Cambridge, UK, said climate change is one of the great dangers we face, and rebuked Trump for obfuscating its existence and withdrawing the US from the Paris Accords.
“By denying the evidence for climate change, and pulling out of the Paris Climate Agreement, Donald Trump will cause avoidable environmental damage to our beautiful planet, endangering the natural world, for us and our children,” he said.
That is perhaps the most outlandish global warming prediction that has ever been made by any scientist. How such an otherwise intelligent man could say that is mind boggling.
For starters, there isn’t any evidence that the Paris Agreement would actually have a significant effect on the climate. But that’s a forgivable mistake. There are plenty of highly educated people who take that accord seriously, despite the evidence that suggests it’s at best useless, and at worse it could decimate the American economy. But at least there’s an argument to be made on both sides.
What’s absolutely unforgivable, is Hawking’s claim that humans could damage the earth’s atmosphere so much through carbon emissions, that it would resemble the lifeless atmosphere of Venus. To give you an idea of how asinine that idea is, the current level of Co2 in the atmosphere is over 400 ppm. 250 million years ago, when dinosaurs roamed the earth and life on this planet was likely just as abundant and diverse as it is now, that level was 5 times higher. 250 million years before that, it was at 7,000 ppm, and the average temperature at that time wasn’t over a hundred degrees hotter. It wasn’t even close to what we see on Venus.
It’s probably not even possible for human’s to put that much Co2 in the atmosphere. The most liberal estimates suggest that the atmosphere would contain Co2 at a level of 5,000 ppm if we burned through every fossil fuel source on the planet, and that’s not likely. But again, even if we did that, our planet would not resemble the surface of Venus.
There’s only two reasonable explanations for this bizarre prediction. Either Hawking’s brilliant mind is going senile, or he’s pushing alarmist claims in the hopes that it will scare us all into supporting climate change initiatives that he thinks will save our planet. Whatever the case may be, this man’s commentary outside of physics shouldn’t ever be taken seriously.
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“We are close to the tipping point where global warming becomes irreversible,” he said yesterday (July 2) in an interview with BBC News.”
Global warming is entirely possible. Three million years ago, Greenland was free of its ice sheet and had been that way for the previous 50 million years.
500 million years ago much of the world, including North America, and especially Arizona where I live was underwater and covered in a shallow sea.
Another Ice Age is also possible. The Sun could expand and swallow the earth in a giant burp becoming a Red Giant before collapsing into a white dwarf. Anything is possible.
It’s TRUMP’S fault that Hawking has lost his marbles. 🙂
Florida has been flooded 5 major times in the last 5 billion years, The world is always in a climate change, that’s what makes the world a living breathing creature. Thankfully we have climate change, winter to summer, rotating around the sun, and with the moon, keeping the tides moving and the world oceans flowing.
Do you think these Climate idiots will cause mass hysteria if you happen to “run a fever” once in a while, or “catch a cold?” That’s what living breathing creatures do. Its life, always changing. This Climate hoax Scam, is all about taxing the masses for some excuse to raise revenue for the controllers who want to be the slave masters of the world and the rest be their slaves. The world is always heating and cooling and snow caps melting and then again refreezing.
**Oh and that stupid Photo, the Climate Hoax-sters like to use with the Polar Bear on this tiny sheet of Glacier. Like they rest has all melted off. Well Polar bears climb on all sorts of sizes of Ice sheets large and small and they can swim 60 miles at a time to reach another ice sheet if they so desire, that photo too is a propaganda climate change Hoax photo.
Florida hasn’t been there for the last 5 billion years…..just sayin. You lost me after the first sentence.
Women tell me that compared to me Hawking is great in bed
Hawking would be better at doing XXX porn movies ? than predicting doom. Besides he was doomed a long time ago.
5 Million not Billion. Thx.
The Polar Bear picture is what we would call ‘fake and fraudulent news’! Now that you mention it, even the narrative Stephen Hawkings is spinning is ‘fake and fraudulent! How can they not know? They are the ones who have been inciting violence ever since DT got elected and now they are trying to accuse the POTUS of inciting violence on them!? What a bunch of fakes! Bernie, Schumer, Pelosi, and Maxine Waters have been increasing their calls for violence resulting in numerous attacks and the shooting of our beloved congressman from Louisiana. The MSM is responsible and culpable in this maniacal idiosy to overthrow the fairly elected POTUS! They want to enslave the world ?. They cannot unless they can enslave ‘we the people’ of these United States ?? of America! God bless the USA ??! Happy 4th!
Louisiana Eagle
Yep! That’s the exact same thing Jim Hansen (world’s foremost climate scientist) says. I read his book few years ago– “Storms of my Grandchildren” and he says the same thing in his book.
He used to study Venus’ climate until he realized that the exact same thing that happened on Venus, millenia(?) ago, was about to take place here– they had a run-a-way climate change also, (its about to take place on our planet).
When he saw the similarities, he stopped his research on Venus and devoted all his attention to OUR planet. He is an expert on Venus’ climate. And recently, gave up position working for NASA to devote all his time to try to spread awareness of what’s taking place on our planet. Its useless, of course– For some reason, people just refuse to believe it… just like the Jews.
Basically, Venus used to have rivers and lakes. (Hansen is an expert on Venus’ climate). In his book, “Storms of my Grandchildren”, he says that at one time either had life or was capable of supporting life. However, they had a run-a-way climate change, in which the planet got hotter and hotter and now its so hot on Venus, it would melt steal!! That’s what will occur on our planet as well, if we burn all the conventional sources of fossil fuels, AS WELL AS all the unconventional sources (tar sands, etc)
Hansen, world’s foremost climate scientist, used to study Venus until he saw all the similarities what happened on Venus and what was taking place here and so, stopped his research on Venus and devoted all his attention to the study of global warming on our planet. Unfortunately, most people cannot grasp the science or simply refuse to pull their heads out of the sand–and face the truth– it IS an inconvenient truth.
What lying crock of horsemanure. Hansen is a buddy of Mikey Mann of famed hockey stick fame. Care to let people know that, Anonymous troll? Didn’t think so. Any word from you fraud trolls about info from Dr. Sallie Baliunas, Harvard Smithsonian, back in the 1990s (when temps were rising) noted there was global warming on ex-planet Pluto (unclear if this was internal forces or not); CalTech reported there was warming on Mars, and Hubble telescope showed Jupiter’s famed red spot was growing due to – you guessed it – global warming.
The frantic lies about Venus? Venus as an example of runaway greenhouse effect, with ~96% CO2? There IS no greenhouse effect, as the major greenhouse gas, water vapor, is missing. Little direct sunlight reaches the surface, but the high surface pressure, 92 times that of earth can explain most of that temp. (As a side note, some of Earth’s temperature is produced internally At 80 miles down, at the Mohorovicic Discontinuity, the temperature is around 900 C, and by 1500 miles deep the temperature reaches 3,700 C. Below that, at the Gutenberg Discontinuity, molten rock becomes pure iron and nickel, and below that, the tremendous pressure creates temperatures up to 7000 C – hotter than the sun’s surface. The other half of the Earth’s heat comes from the breakdown of uranium and thorium.
Thanks for trolling this site, but we all know you are trolling this site on behalf of BIG GREEN MONEY. As Dr. Richard Lindzen, prof. of atmospheric science at MIT, Dr. William Gray, the #1 hurricane forecaster in the world, and John Coleman, founder of the WeatherChannel have said, AGW is “a scam.”
Jim Hanson, former NASA scientist, was promoting more nuclear energy at the Paris COP21 three years ago. No mention whatsoever of an ongoing catastrophe of 3 tons of radiation pouring into the Pacific Ocean on a daily basis, with no known method of stopping the ongoing fission. Until the pushers of human induced CO2 climate change openly discuss geoengineering and Agenda 21, I ignore them. Especially 75 people with supposed Lou Gehrigs Disease, which according to statistics should have been dead decades ago. C’mon man!
Melt steal? Melt all the jews’ stuff? Or melt steel. . .
One would think Venus is simply too close to the Sun to ever have been capable of sustaining organic life as Earth does.
Look at Mercury – scorching hot, hotter than Venus. Venus is located halfway between Mercury and Earth.
If Venus evolved in any way like our own Earth is supposed to have done, it would have cooled down from a magma-like clump, while the solar system itself was coalescing. And we are supposed to believe in-between those two states, Venus was once an earthlike planet?
Doesn’t seem very likely.
CrackSummSkulls, you have a point when you are saying:
“Do you think these Climate idiots will cause mass hysteria if you happen to “run a fever” once in a while, or “catch a cold?” That’s what living breathing creatures do. Its life, always changing. This Climate hoax Scam, is all about taxing the masses for some excuse to raise revenue for the controllers who want to be the slave masters of the world and the rest be their slaves. The world is always heating and cooling and snow caps melting and then again refreezing.”
But, honestly, do you believe all that heaing and cooling cannot get to levels where humanity’s survival gets difficult? When all was hot and damp at the time of the dinosaurs, or when the icecaps were reaching relatively close to the equator, do you think life as we know it could have gone on without huge problems to solve?
That’s what it is all about. It’s not about heating and cooling being natural processes and having always occurred in nature.
Well 500 million years ago they should have banned diesel engines and coal-fueled power plants.
Well, we could unplug Hawkins voice computer to save CO2?
Yep. I see the senile still trying to run the world and make there ‘crazy claims. McCain, Waters, Pelosi are just a few who, if they had our countries best interests at heart, would retire. But they won’t retire because they love what the job does for THEM, not you.
Trump should do a video where he body slams Hawking.
HE, HE, HE, HE!
Hawking has gone from scientist to doom porn comedian. He is hard to look at without laughing.
He just totally undermined his endorsement of the “Smart Pill” he has been hyping. Guess he didn’t take one himself !!! 🙂
Last I looked in 2009, Dr. Oleg Sorokhtin, Merited Scientist of Russia and fellow of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences, and staff researcher of the Oceanology Institute, reports that “scientists say the Arctic and Antarctic ice shields are growing,” not retreating (this has NOT changed as of 2017) and http://www.iceagenow.com reporting June, 2009 that Arctic sea ice is growing at its fastest rate in recorded history, increasing at almost a half million square miles. This was confirmed yet again in Jan. 2010 by the UK’s Daily Mail, which stated “According to the US National Snow and Ice Data Centre in Colorado, Arctic summer sea ice has increased by 409,000 square miles, or 26 per cent, since 2007 – and even the most committed global warming activists do not dispute this.” A 2011 report by Zwally and Giovenetto, researchers for the Crysopheric Sciences Branch of NASA’s Goddard Flight Center, analyzing data from GRACE and IOM, concluded that “”although recent reports of large and increasing rates of mass loss with time from GRACE-based studies cite agreement with IOM results,” they say that their evaluation “does not support that conclusion.” And there is great potential for extremely large errors in GRACE-based studies, which typically suggest overly large ice sheet losses.
Farley Mowat, the noted Canadian leftist and Greenpeace activist, wrote in his book West Viking (written while we were still in the global cooling scare, which book I own and have read in full) that there were probably at least dwarf forests growing in Greenland when the Vikings arrived in 985 AD and the Smithsonian Museum of Natural History reports “… Erik the Red discovered two areas of southwest Greenland which were suitable for farming, with grasslands and small stands of alder and birch.” You will note that it is too cold today for any type of forests to grow in Greenland, and there is zero ability to farm, unless modern technologies are utilized – and even then, crop selection is very minimal.
Mowat also reported the Arctic pack ice was much less in that Viking discovery era than today. Dr. Fred Singer writes that when the Vikings first settled Greenland, they grew vegetables, and it was warm enough to allow the population to grow to 3,000 people and by 1100 AD the place was thriving enough that they had their own bishop and twelve churches. Nature reported in a 2010 article that clamshell studies also confirm Norse records. Meanwhile, the Archeological Survey of Canada has also noted around “A.D. 1000, a warmer climate resulted in the tree line advancing 100 kilometres north of its present position.” The results of this? Especially in northern Europe, “the period between 1150 and 1300 was truly a flowering period, for population reached unprecedented levels that were never to be seen again until the late 18thcentury in many countries; the English population experienced a staggering threefold increase in its population during the last century since the Domesday Survey in 1086”.
This climate optimum (also called a climate anomaly) coincided with a period of increased solar activity (see below). Farming of various crops extended hundreds of kilometers farther north than it is possible today.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste. A brilliant mind, wrongly directed, is simply a brilliant waste. Hawking, had he been born in an earlier time, or even today in a 3rd world country, would have been nothing more than a crippled street urchin begging for food and awaiting an untimely death.
By God’s grace he was given the opportunity to use his intellect to the fullest, even as his physical abilities, including speech, were ravaged by disease at a young age. Sadly, he chose to deny the God who provided such opportunity. Therefore, NOTHING he has learned, taught, or accomplished in his life is of any lasting value.
His statements on ‘global warming’ betray a man who has, like millions of others, been fooled by the naive notion that man-made activities could destroy the planet. While we may be able to temporarily spoil small segments of the environment, we will not, CAN NOT, destroy this earth. It will remain functioning and habitable for as long as God wants it to. For God made it, and it is He who sustains it. Hawking, genius intellect and all, has chosen to deny that fact.
I suppose, since there are some here who disbelieve in any deity, that I may be accused of turning this into a religious debate. I am guilty as charged. But then, all conversations among people, when starting from a point of error, i.e. the denial of a supreme being, can lead to nothing but greater error. Mr. Hawking therefore, starting from error, can reach no logical, truthful conclusion pertaining to climate change. Or anything else for that matter.
Obviously, I’ve never had the opportunity to meet Stephen Hawking. And I never will. Also, I know virtually nothing about physics. In any discussion on the topic I would quickly be shown as ignorant. But I don’t need to know physics if I have an intimate friend who knows more about it than anyone else.
I have such a friend. He knows physics as if He invented the very laws which govern the universe. Which, by the way, He did. His name is Jesus.
And Jesus, being God incarnate, knows more about physics, climate change, and everything else, than Hawking ever will! Jesus knows physics and I know Him. Do you? 🙂
I do, take Jesus as my Lord and Savior 🙂
Gen. 8:22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.
indeed.
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I feel sorry for you. Why do you prep if hes gonna save you? Bring one person forward who has ever been saved and gotted everlasting life. Never happens, nobody is saved. Its all a hoax. Fake promises to dupe the gulluble out of their money and common sense. You are just one more victim of religious Fraud.
Nice post Oke
I hate to say this, but his debilitating disease has affected his mind, in my opinion. Further, if the recent film ‘The Theory of Everything’ is correct, he would not even accept the religious convictions of his own wife, from their first dates in college to the end of their marriage. He was an egocentric ass at a young age and never sought to reflect on his own failure of intellect and maturity.
Yep!! The arctic is melting; antarctica is coming apart at the seams– but, hey! There is no global warming. The poles’ twisting is causing the melt– not heat! Heat doesn’t cause ice to melt! the poles are doing it!!
Who says hawking is brilliant? Just other colleagues that are equally retarded.
loon
Don’t cloud the argument with truths.
fuk hawking and his hair brain ideas
DK, Hawking never had any marbles to lose. Libturds never have marbles.
What really amazes me
Is that supposedly intelligent people actually believe the real Hawking is alive
No one cheats the death of his disease
And just because the real Hawking was intelligent, still doesn’t give him a pass on what’s killed everyone else that gets or has all his ailements
“No one cheats the death of his disease”… this is what the theory says, and practice works only until the first exception surfaces.
If we are close to the tipping point then we should tip hawking over.
This was linked a while back, here, iirc..
Hawking is deceased and has been…who tf knows.
remove the space:
ht tp://milesmathis.com/hawk3.pdf
Hawking was initially diagnosed with ALS, or Lou Gehrig’s disease, in 1963. His 22-year survival, if real, is a record by a couple of years over that of Jason Becker. His survival until today, 53 years, is an absurd notion. Jane would officially stay married to her deceased spouse until 1995, and in 1996 remarried, free at last of the scam. The new Hawking entered into a farcical marriage with Elaine Mason, complete with rumors of abuse, the normal kind of misdirection we get from Intelligence when something really important is being covered up.
Of course, the natural question is why, and here I quote the researcher:
“Well, the reason for all this weirdness is the reason for all the other weirdnesses in the Modern world: money. Physics has become a giant cash cow, milked straight from the various national treasuries by the usual suspects. Hundreds of billions of dollars are siphoned from the people of Europe, China, Russia, and the Americas via these fake programs. And Hawking was an important PR personality in the early 1980’s, one they didn’t want to lose. He was a top salesman of their various boondoggles, and he became an even better salesman once he was replaced by an impostor. Once he was replaced, his puppeteers had complete control over the product they were creating, with no fear that the real Hawking might develop scruples.”
You should research the Milankovitch Cycles they are the root cause of Ice Ages and global warming. We are in the warmest period between ice ages.
Yeah, Brrr Zin-ski wrote Between 2 ice ages
If correct, this could imply global warming will not progress much further.
Global warming is only logical – there is a law saying “what goes up, must come down” (and vice versa).
Change is eternally in the air. The only problem is when will it happen? And how much? And for how long?
What a worthless fucking dick. Die ass hole
While the “One Hand” is over here Twirling the 4th of July Sparkler in an illusion of Freedom, the other Precious Metal Criminals Hedge Funds over there, are shorting the Hell out of Gold and Silver. And you would not know this, until tomorrow when the masses wake up out of their drunkin Freedom Illusion stupors.
Gold was pounded down to $1217, and now sitting at: $1225 Lost an easy $25
Silver was hammered down and lost $.48 Cents and now sitting at: $16.11 which it dipped down to $15.96 Like WTF is that all about? The world is imploding financially, and they short the heck out of metals, to keep idiots on the dollar and in the system.
Right now in this market, there are NO Safe Havens. But when all of this implodes like a stock market correction of at least 15% the RETAIL Masses will flock to metals. And shorting will be a losers game.
Where are the Metal Authorities, allowing all this criminal manipulation in the metals? These Turds need to all be sitting in prison and banned from all financials computer keyboards for life. If the Authorities are not arresting these criminals right now, then they too are part of the collusion. Its that plain as day.
~CSS
CSS ~ In yesterday’s article on college education, you posted a comment which included this: “I have been self-employed in the financial industry for over 25 years. I made a lot of money…”
So, as a financial expert, how would you invest a substantial amount of money? I know several people who have either inherited a relative’s home; or who have quite a bit of money saved through a lifetime of working; or who are planning to sell their small business and retire.
It’s one thing to protect your money by turning into PMs when you just have 10K or 20K…. but what if you have 300K or perhaps even more? In the current uncertain and eroding economic climate, no place seems like a safe haven. Everything seems terribly risky.
I know someone who has their entire life savings — over 500K — in the stock market, which I consider terribly risky. This isn’t some “rich guy” — he came from a humble background, worked hard all his life, saved his money, and invested in stocks starting back in the 1980s. But now I would like to encourage this gentleman to put at least part of his life savings elsewhere…. but where can you put that kind of money nowadays and not have a lot of risk?
Any constructive input would be appreciated – –
Many commentators that I respect say 10% of your total, whether it’s 100 dollars or a million, should be in AU/AG or PGMs (AU is gold, BTW). Anonymous’ post below is utterly wrong and ill-advised. AU/AG is the only thing that has been recognized as money for 5,000 years, and is fungible. That word “fungible” is important – you may want to look it up. It is also the one thing that is not at the same time someone else’s liability. This too is vital, in a world w here everything a “Bernie Madoff-ized.”
Tell me, Dr. Lawrence Kotlikoff, who served under Reagan in the Treasury, and is now at Boston Univ, said (last I looked)if you you took ALL the unfunded liabilities in the US, the debt was not 19 Trillion, but 222 trillion (last I looked). A few years ago, USA Today stated the number of 73 trillion. Now, unless we have incredible growth, there are ONLY three ways to do pay this back – inflation, raise taxes or cut services. Yes, there ARE permutations of this, and you can combine all three, but high level, those are the three. Cut services? The sheeple will riot when their free lunches are taken away. Raise taxes? People go Galt.
So, do what you will. No one really knows how this will all play out, do diversify for certain. If you have 10% in AG/AG/PGMs, it’s not going to hurt you if it goes down a bit. But if things go seriously sideway, it is insurance for certain.
Personally, and with all due respect, I find Anon’s comments below irresponsible. The truth is, though, in this amoral world, combined with ZIRP/NIRP, we have all been forced to become speculators and hedge fund managers. This is yet just another IMMORAL result of the socialist world the left has foisted on us.
Note: Speaking of socialist nightmares, Illinois just reported that Gov. Rauner vetoed the $5 bn tax increase bill sent to him by the House and Senate – HOWEVER, it was overridden by the Senate, with the House undoubtedly to follow. All in the name of “compassion, ad nauseam.” So here is what happens next: they raise taxes massively. People and businesses leave. In five years, the place is now Detroit or Puerto Rico. Yeah, that’s real compassion. This should be major news, but will be greeting with a sign of relief tomorrow… just like giving the alcoholic who is begging for another drink another glass of vodka – and the next week he is dead of cirrhossis.
Tell him to put at least two years of expenses into cash in the bank, regardless of how he may feel about FRNs and banks. The market could crash 50% or more but cash will still be king as long as inflation doesn’t get worse.
If he’s nearing retirement, he should move the bulk, meaning 75% or even more, into cash. He won’t have the time to rebuild in the event of a market failure once he’s over 65. He can always follow the market later and put some back in the bull markets but he needs to avoid the bear attacks.
That’s my take on it, anyway. He can play with precious metals collecting US gold and silver coins for $20K if he wants, or buy some guns and ammo for $5K, but $500K is his life savings and he needs to protect it all.
Disagree Smokey. I would never keep any money in any bank period. Maybe just living expenses in a Credit Union acct and that’s it. Get all your wealth out of all banks. Only keep debt in a bank, like a car payment or credit card. The Dollar only has 2 cents of its original value left. Anybody who thinks they will get rich by saving money in a bank is delusional. Inflation already ate it all up, but 2 cents left of the original dollar. Do you want to hold it until it goes to zero Smokey? Only a fool would be that foolish.
Investments:
ASAP Dump all Dollars, and buy land, pay off all debt, secure all your preps, food and homestead, and buy up tools, guns and ammo, fuel, productive farm land, livestock, renewable energy, solar, PM’s Silver, etc. That’s what I would invest in right now today.
If you buy your Solar today, you are locking in your energy costs for the next 25 to 30 years. You will save $50K over the next 25 years by going solar today. My ROI on my solar investment is 4 to 5 years. After that is pure profit for the next 25 to 30 years. That’s a great investment. Maybe spend $1000 more on batteries in another 10 years to replace the ones I have now. Inverter $300 or even a new Controller $500, panels .65 cents a watt but they come with a 25 year warrantee. There is nothing hard about Solar, just a crash course on how easy it really is. No moving parts to wear out. Silent energy.
Solar, 4 Components or parts:
1. Solar Panels,
2. Controller,
3. Batteries, and
4. Inverter to change it from 12V to 110 power. The rest is just the wiring and solar panel mounting and placement box for the batteries, and another panel or box for the controller and inverter. Keep your batteries separate from your other electrical components. The Gas that the batteries emit can damage your electrical components, erode the contacts on the electronics.
Also keep your batteries as close to the solar panels as possible. You loose a lot of 12V efficiency in the wires, by running long 12V lines from panels to the controller and batteries, so keep the controller and batteries as close as possible to the panels, like mount the batteries in a water proof box under the solar panels and the other components in another water proof box under the panels. After you convert the 12V to 110 power you can run a longer A/C line stretch to your building or outlet without much energy loss.
I found running even a 40 ft long 12V lines from solar panels to the controller and batteries, there is a loss of about 30% in power loss in the wires alone. Its that bad, and self defeating. So keep your 12V run lines as short as possible. That’s why the newer on grid panels, the Power inverter is mounted underneath the panels with about a 12 inch 12V line to reduce the 12V loss in resistance in the wire length. It helps in maximizing the panel efficiency. You can run A/C lines a long way, and not loose much efficiency. D/C power is different. SO keep that in mind when designing a system for you.
Do you use a modified sine wave or a pure sine wave?
Why?
A 40 foot 1/0 gauge AWG cable with a 40 amp load DC will lose 3%.
This is like a heavy duty car battery cable. 50-80 bucks
DC power cable sizing calculator- http://www.solar-wind.co.uk/cable-sizing-DC-cables.html
note 0 gauge and 1/0 are the same
ground/return wire can be smaller depending on volt drop
Well I am invested in Silver, and land mostly where I live. If you have $500K I would be investing in land, Productive Farm land for the most of it. You can lease out the land for others to farm for crops, or raising cattle to graze etc. Buy up natural resources, land with lakes and water and good soil, create your farmstead, homestead. Buy up land for possible future housing developments. I know a lady in GA who inherited some land and she now plants 40 acres of Blueberries, and someone else farms it and picks it and handles the entire process. She just gets a check when the crops sell. They sell the berries to Publix Supermarkets. She is in a Co-Op. Easy money.
The Financial Industry I am in, is not in investing or wall street. It is in Transaction processing. I am the tool booth on the financial transaction Highway. The gateway that collects the fees on every transaction. Pay the fee and you can proceed forward. Thank you very much come again.
Metals may never gain any value again other than for use as industrial metals and jewelry and such.
Don’t expect any large run to safety with them as they are no longer associated with money the way they have been in the past. People -individual people- with any real amount of money to protect no longer see them this way outside of hypothetical philosophical discussions.
I’d post anonymously too if I was expressing absolute ostentatious ignorance.
And because you took “Stuart” as your handle, this is making you less anonymous?
Haha. This is funny!
Gotta keep that PetroDollar going, says The Fed.
See how your beloved PM’s get manipulated?
It’s all part of the plan, big fella.
Your only true safe haven is ALMIGHTY GOD.
100% truth CSS
I think Kim Jung Un-stable should tie Hawking to the nose of one of his test missles and be the first to launch ? Snowflake brain powered wheelchair into orbit.
I think what is in his “depends” is smarter than what is in his “head”
Hawking just went full-retard…
Calling Dr Kevorkian…
I am not one to make fun of Dr Strangelove types so I wont?
It is hard to not be gawking at hawking
Hawking died long ago, he is just a melted wax museum figure now.
I sell guns in California.
I once had a guy just like this (rocket scientist for Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory) fail the FSC safety test. This is a test a 5th grader could pass.
He missed 22 out of 30.
Hawking doesn’t know every fucking thing there is to know, but he is a dupe for the left.
With all due respect to Dr. Hawking, I kinda rather doubt his assertion. It sounds just a wee tad politically motivated. For all his actual brilliance, he has made errors in estimation, and rhetorical claims before. Notice how no one ever mentions that temperatures are rising measurably across the solar system? But, what are we to expect?
In 1988, former Canadian Minister of the Environment, told editors and reporters of the Calgary Herald: “No matter if the science of global warming is all phony…climate change [provides] the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world.”
“We have got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic policy and environmental policy.” – Former U.S. Senator Timothy Wirth (D-CO)
While carelessness can’t be helping the overall environment, the idea that we are the cause of climate change is political fraud, just another power grab…
In fact, UN’s Top Climate Officia, socialist Christiana Figueres, the executive secretary of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, has gone on record to explicitly state the goal of the global warmers to is to “intentionally transform the economic development model” in place “since the Industrial Revolution.” “This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model, for the first time in human history.” And no doubt, in her next quote, we’ll hear yet more cliches, such as “Workers of the world, unite!” from her. Yawn.
And is the demand for some all powerful “Dear Leader” a conspiracy theorist’s paranoia? Oscar winning film maker Woody Allen doesn’t think so. During an interview with the Spanish newspaper La Vanguardia, Allen stated “I am pleased with Obama. I think he’s brilliant… it would be good . . . if he could be a dictator for a few years because he could do a lot of good things quickly.”
Maurice Strong, the leftist hero of global governance, and former Secretary General of the UN’s Conference on Environment and Development, stated in his 2000 autobiography, Where We Are Going, that by 2031, two thirds of earth’s population might be wiped out. A tragedy? Not to the left. He describes this possibility as “A glimmer of hope for the future of our species and its potential for regeneration” (think the evil Professor Weston here in CS Lewis’ Out of the Silent Planet and Perelandra). As James Delinpole observes about Strong’s comment: “See: It’s perfectly OK to fantasize about the deaths of maybe 5 billion people – as long as you show at the end that you really care: you’re thinking about humanity.” Exactly what the leftists said as they wiped out over 60 million in the Soviet Union, Pol Pot with his millions in Cambodia, or Mao with his toll of perhaps 20 million. And this will be done with or without your consent, as Strong again notes: “Our concept of ballot box democracy may need to be modified (Agenda 21, anyone? I think we can agree “Abolished” will be the operative word, not “modified,” once the left is through) to produce strong governments capable of making difficult decisions, particularly in terms of safe-guarding the environment.” Strong’s United Nations Environment Programme also had a decidely socialist mandate, stating in their 1976 report “Private land ownership is a principal instrument of accumulating wealth and therefore contributes to social injustice Public control of land is therefore indispensible,” and “public ownership of land is jsutified in favour of the common good, rather than to protect the interestes of the already privileged.” And for good measure, Strong also wanted a “collectivist global government.” Unknown is whether Strong wanted a Pol Pot style collective, a USSR style collective, or a Maoist collective. We can be sure, however, that the private property and zillion room mansions of the Hollywood Learjet leftists won’t be affected, nor the leftist limousine liberals in New York’s Hamptons or Martha’s Vineyard, nor Michele Obama’s uber luxe monthly vacations.
But Strong doesn’t stop there. As Discover the Networks noted, Strong felt that industrialized countries benefitted “from unsustainable patters of production and consumption, which have produced our present dilemma,” with all the environmental problems emanating from our Western middle class lifestyles (that Strong, himself, had no problem personally enjoying!) which includes “high mean intake, consumption of of frozen and convenience foods, use of fossil fuels, appliances, home and work palce air conditioning, and suburban housing” – all of which were not sustainable. Concluded strong about his delusional dilemma: “We may get to the point where the only way of saving the world will be for industrialized civilization to collapse. Isn’t it our responsibility to bring it about?”
Altough Strong was on record of stating “Current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class – involving high meat intake, the use of fossil fuels, electrical appliances, home and workplace air conditioning, and suburban housing – are not sustainable,” thankfully, he had feathered his own nest very, very well before his death, making off – Solyndra/Bernie Madoff-like – with $15.3 mm in shares sold just before one of his failed green energy companies, Molten Metal Technologies was exposed for the scam it was. Strong sold at $35/share, while the common man who invested saw his investment drop to $5/share. Stockholders filed an insider class action suit against MMTI, which was similar to another, previous lawsuit Strong was involved with. And let’s not forget Strong’s heavy involvment with the corrupt Oil for Food scam with Saddam Hussein (he initially denied involvement… until investigators confronted him with a cheque endorsed with his own signature. Nothing ever came of this…. but, of course, nothing ever does with connected leftits. Witness Obama buddy Jon Corzine “losing” $1.6 billion in private investor funds, and getting a tiny slap on the wrist, Hilary’s home email server antics, or Bill Clinton’s blatant perjury in a court of law – which would put any normal person in prison .
On the upside, all those who lost their life savings in this gambit might well now being living under bridge, or in one of those Obamaville tent cities, and using very little energy!
And Strong was not alone. “Building an environmentally sustainable future requires restricting the global economy, dramatically changing human reproductive behavior, and altering values and lifestyles. Doing this quickly requires nothing short of a revolution.”,” said Worldwatch Institute founder Lester Brown. To which environmental activist Daniel Sitarz agreed, stating: “Agenda 21 proposes an array of actions intended to be implemented by every person on Earth. Effective execution of Agenda 21 will require a profound reorientation of all humans, unlike anything the world has ever experienced.” And of course, Mr. Warmer himself, Al Gore also wants your lifestyle reeled in, noting ““Minor shifts in policy, moderate improvements in laws and regulations, rhetoric offered in lieu of genuine change- these are all forms of appeasement, designed to satisfy the public’s desire to believe that sacrifice, struggle and a wrenching transformation of society will not be necessary.” Of course, Al Gore in 2010 bought a $8.875k mansion on 1 ½ acres in prime MontecitoCalifornia real estate, which includes “a swimming pool, spa and fountains, according to real estate sources familiar with the deal. The Italian-style house has high ceilings with beams in the public rooms, a family room, a wine cellar, terraces, six fireplaces, five bedrooms and nine bathrooms in more than 6,500 square feet of living space.”
Wow, can you repeat that?
Say what?
All animals are equal, it’s just that some are more equal than others…
Two legs bad, 4 legs good
Notice how no one ever mentions that temperatures are rising measurably across the solar system?
Oh.
That’s. Maybe bad…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLykC1VN7NY
YAY?
Dr. Sallie Baliunas, Harvard Smithsonian, back in the 1990s (when temps were rising) noted there was global warming on ex-planet Pluto (unclear if this was internal forces or not); CalTech reported there was warming on Mars, and Hubble telescope showed Jupiter’s famed red spot was growing due to – you guessed it – global warming.
No word yet if our SUVs will take out Saturn from Al Gore.
For all the people out there believing in Hawking, i have just one question:”Do you also believe in Santa Claus?”.
Or Geezuss?
Jesus is real and knocking on your heart. When He returns there is nothing that can stand against Him.
Menzo, the sad part is that all these folks do is insult Jesus. That’s fine.. AS LONG AS you have done your due diligence on WHY you reject the claims of Christ. Virtually not a one of them can cite a single book they have read showing they have read the other side. I have read SCADS of atheists, Muslims, etc (including having read the Qu’ran twice; why won’t these folks show the same intellectually honesty?
Turns out famed atheist philosopher C.E.M. Joad did the same, and ended up a Christian; recently deceased famed atheist philosopher Anthony Flew (I’ll bet these atheists don’t even know who he is – I have read a LOT of him) also did the same, and before he died believe in God.
We get this insults about Jesus. Now… how about telling us the ***rationale*** behind the insults, and on **what basis** these folks are rejecting Christ. There is a clear point of falsification (a term in logic – basically, something cannot be proven true unless it has the ability to be proven false) in Christianity, and that is the resurrection. The man most responsible for our legal system of what constitutes valid evidence in a court of law, Dr. Simon Greenleaf of Harvard in the 1800s, was a Jew, and not a Christian. Someone challenged him to examine the evidence for the resurrection, and he ended up becoming a Christian, penning The Testimony of the Evangelists. There’s one book you can read.
In sum, we get the insults re. Christ. Now tell us why, and what due diligence you atheists have shown by even reading ONE book on the other side. On my side, I have read HUNDREDS from the opposing side. Heck, just show some intellectual honesty folks, that’s all I ask
Bankers took him out once, they will do it again.
Jesus has been AWOL for 2000+ years. How long would you wait for a girlfriend to show up for a date until you figured out she is a no show, and stood you up? 10 minutes? 1 hour?, a day?, how about year? or 2000 friggin years a NO SHOW. You are living an illusion, a fantasy, and hopeful wishing. That’s why they call it faith.
The Definition of faith, is a set of beliefs with out any facts or proof. You put all your faith into a hoax No-Show. You have been stood up, so face the facts sheep. You been fleeced and duped and nobody ever has been saved, and you all die. So stop wasting your time and money worshiping a hoax. Religion is the cause of Brain Damage. You loose all rational thought and common sense and are blinded from the truth and duped out of your money. Now with these facts I presented, if you still choose to be a sucker then God Bless you and bring your wallet to church again on Sunday. Remember God Loves you, so give till it hurts sheep. haha. God loves you so much he gives you cancer, car wrecks, arthritis, heart attacks, poverty, inlaws, outlaws, taxes, and brain washes you. So keep Praying for being a sinner as the hucksters prey on you.
Let us enjoy our delusional stupor. If we are right and you are wrong, thats a big OOPS on
your part. 2,000 years may seem like a long time considering the human life span.
He is running on a different schedule. Yes, there will always be the huckster preachers out
there making money off Jesus. He has plans for them too.
Yeshua. He came to reveal all things hidden since the beginning of time.
He knows you by name. He does not want part of your heart.
He wants all of it. Read Romans 12:2
Steven Hawking is a certifiable moron.
Anything that I’ve ever heard him say that makes any kind of sense at all (and there hasn’t been much of that) I could have heard from the average 5th grader.
Everything else has been pure, unadulterated bovine scat.
He is paid by being a guest comedian on Big Bang theory. So he has to be a socialist or get a job as a walmart door stop.
F you Cali rot in hell .along with your spics. Our live it now pay it.
I do not want to denigrate Stephen Hawking here. I want to question what he is saying who is interpreting what he is saying? who is writing the script off his handicap computer? this man may be a vegetable or not . I believe his words are being manipulated by those whom want the sheeple to follow blindly. I hope this genius will be able to put forth his true info without the heavy hand of the creeps who want to further their agenda.
His machine is being controlled by the same puppet-masters that were at the helm of Obola’s teleprompters.
Speaking of puppet masters, BlackMoe, you rightfully indicate that we should not just take people’s word for things, but rather do our due diligence on important issues. Very well and good. This being so, relative to your “Geezus” comment, please tell me a SINGLE book you have read (e.g. Lee Strobel, CS Lewis, Oxford Math professor John Lennox, or even his website) from the other side relative to Christianity. Just one.
If you cannot do this, I would very respectfully submit to you that you, too, are being gamed by the anti-Christian puppet masters.
Test: I read most all of the Bible and found it to be a big lie and uninformed explanations and excuses. I went right to the source. So much of the bible contradicts itself. Miracles or Magic tricks? Who worships a Jealous God? Exodus 34:14 And commands you to go out and destroy everybody who does not believe the way you do. That’s evil in itself, right? Sounds like Nation destroying, like our government is participating in right now. Bringing so much misery to humanity. Wow how godly is that. Geocide and dropping bombs. Religion is evil and teaches you to hate.
How many people out there who call themselves religious, have ever read the bible or just a few passages? And just goes along with the flock to think they will get a seat in that imaginary place called heaven. I would guess about half of the blind flock never read the Bible, or even a whole book within the Bible, other than in church as they passage is being read. You see religious people are lazy people, they expect everything to be taken care of for them, if they give up all their wealth and common sense and devote themselves to be a slave to the religion hoax.
Religion has a form of Communism, with one leader only, where you give up everything you have to the church and they in return, feed you and promise you stuff that will never come, then when it fails you are deemed and sinner and should have prayed harder. Follow along sheep and then we will recite these nice songs and glorify the hoax with nursery rhymes and poems.
If God was up for election and people could vote to replace him with a better God who truly loved humanity and could stop all the hate and wars, you think the new God would win? Or are you stuck with the same dictator telling you want to do and how to live your life and be jealous and go out and destroy anybody who does not believe the way you do. That’s Christianity right out of the book of Exodus. EVIL!!
If you want to take control of your life and destiny, do it yourself, and stop the wishy hopey, praying hope it comes, nope stood up again. DENIED!!
Ah, Zeus/Apollo. I see you are back again.
What constitutes “most,” and how much of what you say is derived from what others have told you? Your objections are not very convincing. Much of the Bible contradicts itself? Who, when, where? Or is is that you actually haven’t read much of it all? Jealous? Do you know what the original word is in Hebrew? Do you actually think this is some kind of high school jealousy type thing? But I’m glad you cited Ex. 34:14. This was for a specific place and time for a people that were basically worse than Nazis. It had everything to do with stopping evil, and not “destroying people who don’t believe the way you do.” That, mon ami, is called eisegesis. I assume you know what this is, since you are doing it?
The ironic thing is that you call soemthing evil. We have bene over this before, and you still don’t seem to understand: You have ***ZERO*** basis to call anything evil. There is only evolution, so whatever is, is right. Right and wrong are mere preference. So please, dispense with this repeated gambit of calling things evil. If there is no god, there are NO moral standards, and everything is permissible. If your read any of logic, you would know this basic tenet.
Religion teaches people to hate? You mean like William Carey, who abolished suttee (burning widows) in India? Like William Wilberforce, who is the seminal force behind ending slavery? Like the Christians who stayed behind during plagues to care for the sick and dying a thousand years ago? Like my friend Reuben in Colombia, who brought in “sicarios” (child murderers) into his home to try to bring them out of their lifestyle, at heavy risk to himself? Like my wife and I who put a half Mexican, half black young man through his certified medical ass’t training on our own dime, just to help him. Tell me, which of these are evil? Dropping bombs? Did Jesus drop bombs? But there is the question of whether just war, or complete pacifism should be the route to go, I grant you that.
How many people out there who call themselves religious, have ever read the bible or just a few passages? I would submit those of that nature may have religion… but that ain’t personal faith. And religion is precisely what we can agree with. Religion is man’s attempt to reach God; the real Christian faith if the complete opposite, God’s attempt to reach man. So, you are very correct here. If you never read God’s msg, I would not consider a person any more than “religious” but not Christian.
Religious people are lazy people, they expect everything to be taken care of for them? I worked full time at night and when to school full time in the day one year of my undergrad, and lived in an unheated basement in Canada while doing my graduate work. Really, mon ami… you betray nothing more than your own prejudices, biases and hatreds with these types of comments.
Religion is form of communism and a hoax? I have repeated cited people like Lee Strobel, CS Lewis, Josh McDowell William Lane Craig, Ravi Zacharias, Paul Copan (who addresses your question on God being a “jealous God” – IF, that is, you have the intellectual honesty to review his book on the topic), Jon Lennox, prof of math at Oxford, etc. ***Have you read a SINGLE book from even ONE of these authors?? I have read HUNDREDS of books from atheists, etc. Why won’t you even read ONE on your side?
Giving up my money? I do so of my own free will. Funny. You call me a hater, then with same words accuse me of wasting my money when I, e.g., send money to support the mentally retarded. Please – make up your mind, but otherwise, go review the law of non-contradiction for your sake and mine.
“Religion has a form of Communism, with one leader only, where you give up everything you have to the church and they in return, feed you and promise you stuff that will never come, then when it fails you are deemed and sinner and should have prayed harder. Follow along sheep and then we will recite these nice songs and glorify the hoax with nursery rhymes and poems.” This sadly, just betrays a bitterness and hatred, along with a massive misunderstanding of the whole thing. While Jesus is my leader – rightfully so, as he is God – I literally have no idea what you are talking about. But I suppose if you think Christianity is what you cite above, then I can see why you dislike it. Of course, your analysis is utterly unrecognizable to me, but again, you have made a category mistake.
If God was up for election? There are MILLIONS who already have voted. China may have over 100 million; North Korea has a church where you go to prison, and generally die, for their faith. The church in Iran is growing rapidly, with the same threats to go to Evin Prison, or worse. Dictator? Jesus died and spent your and my eternity in Hell because he loved us. That’s SOME dictator who suffers and dies for his servants, n’est pas? If God truly loved humanity, he would come to earth, and suffer exactly as we did, do everything in his power to free us – which of course he did.
You conclude with the words “EVIL!!” As famed atheist philosopher Dr. Anthony Flew – who turned to believe in God before his recent death – would have said (and as noted above) your use of the word evil betrays an utter disregard for logic and your own reasoning. There is, can can be, no evil, where there are no moral absolutes. We have been over this ground before when you went by Zeus and Apollo, so I can only hope that you take some time to reflect on HOW you came to call anything “evil.” Don’t answer me. Rather, ask yourself.
We’ll meet again on these pages. But I do hope you actually some time read through the whole New Testament, not just quote selected passages. But I will agree – if I had your misunderstandings, I, too, would not be a Christian. Thankfully, what you think – as evidenced by what you have written above – ain’t necessarily so.
Addendum: Sorry for the typos above. I can neither type nor proof read. But relative to the religion being the polar opposite of faith, my readings tonight in Philippians (short book, Zeus/Apollo/CSS – try reading it some time) says precisely what I noted. To wit:
“We rely on what Christ Jesus has done for us. We put no confidence in human effort… I once thought these things were valuable, but now I consider them worthless because of what Christ has done. 8 Yes, everything else is worthless when compared with the infinite value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have discarded everything else, counting it all as garbage, so that I could gain Christ 9 and become one with him. I no longer count on my own righteousness through obeying the law; rather, I become righteous through faith in Christ.”
Christ was not big on “religion” (man’s attempts to reach God) either, but rather a personal relationship with Him. Those people you cite above who rarely read the Bible I have to assume don’t really know him, at least many of them. If I love someone, like my wife, I want to communicate regularly, daily with her. Same is true with God.
But I do owe you an apology. If you are Zeus/Apollo, I seem to recall you are a deist of some sort? I can’t recall, but if so that does put a slightly different spin on things
You’re making everything about ones religious beliefs more complex than it has to be. Read and study the Bible diligently and you will find your answers, do not depend on man, find it for yourself. The Bible is also a record of history and can be verified by other historians. You can not twist the words of the Bible to mean what you want them to mean, you have to study and allow the words to give you the meaning. Man has always looked for God, if you don’t look, you will not find. Waiting
CrackSummSkulls, you seem to confuse Christianity with Judaism, and the OT with the NT. What you are quoting was part of Jehovah’s contract with the Hebrews – the Covenant – and it was thanks to that Covenant that the Hebrews regained their freedom after Egyptian slavery and could thrive as a people again.
Christianity however is (or should be) based on the teachings of Jesus Christ, who brought something new for all of humanity, not just for the Jews. What he brought went beyond the Pentateuch (which includes Exodus).
I find it hard to believe that after decades of being paralyzed he is still alive. I think his body is being kept alive somehow artificially. I highly doubt his brain can function at all.
how do we know what this man is saying?
If Yellowstone blows, it will be Trump’s fault.
If the planet burns off the atmosphere, it will be Trump’s fault.
If Jesus changes His mind about saving your soul, it will be Trump’s fault.
I can’t believe any scientist would make such a strange statement. But that’s my fault. I should know, even science is more political than anything.
Happy 4th of July, 2017. Independence Day.
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I knew it!
Stephen Hawking is full of shit.
Hawking has enough to worry about without stressing about global climate change. Let’s park his a$$ in Alaska outback where he can stress about hungery wolves instead.
He is not a scientist. He is a mobile platform for trump hate. I don’t wish anything bad on hawking but it would b fun to watch the expressions on his face if he fell over a rocky cliff.
Gandhi, everything you have said so far shows how inappropriate your choice of Gandhi’s name was for your nick.
Mr Hawking just lost his cred!
He jumped the shark on a wheel chair. 😛
He is a smart idiot. Fear porn expert.
Venus as an example of runaway greenhouse effect, with ~96% CO2? There IS no greenhouse effect, as the major greenhouse gas, water vapor, is missing. Little direct sunlight reaches the surface, but the high surface pressure, 92 times that of earth can explain most of that temp. (As a side note, some of Earth’s temperature is produced internally At 80 miles down, at the Mohorovicic Discontinuity, the temperature is around 900 C, and by 1500 miles deep the temperature reaches 3,700 C. Below that, at the Gutenberg Discontinuity, molten rock becomes pure iron and nickel, and below that, the tremendous pressure creates temperatures up to 7000 C – hotter than the sun’s surface. The other half of the Earth’s heat comes from the breakdown of uranium and thorium.)
Sorry, Steven. Not everything you do is right.
Don’t leave out the Venus proximity to the sun vs our proximity and the inverse square law effect on the amount of solar radiation reaching us vs reaching Venus.
Anon, re. Venus, that is already assumed.
But, But, Al Gore the stupid expert said the center of the earth is millions of degrees, and we all know he is the puppet master of Steven Hawking..
Oh, OK. Well if university flunk out, carbon billionaire Al Gore said it, I stand corrected.
Here is Al Gore’s electrical usage at his old digs, reported as of March, 2010, by Mark J. Perry, at http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2010/02/when-it-comes-to-his-own-carbon.html, which noted. “In 2007, Al Gore’s mansion in Nashville burned through an average of 17,720 kWh of electricity per month (see Al Gore’s energy bills from 2005 to mid-2008 http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/GlobalWarming/story?id=2906888 ) , via the Tennessee Center for Policy Research, which first reported on Al Gore’s energy usage in 2007), which is almost 19 times as much as the monthly electricity consumed by the average U.S. household (936 kWh), and almost 3 times as much electricity as the average U.S. commercial customer (6,408 kWh),” (see Dept. of Energy, at http://www.eia.doe.gov). But, let’s be fair to Al. It’s not only his expediency in energy matters, but he manages well to pollute in other areas, as well. A Newsmax story from 2006 puts it best: “One of the most glaring tidbits, for instance, is the pollution Gore and his family caused by maintaining their own toxic waste dump on their farm in Carthage, Tennessee. During the 1992 presidential campaign, Nashville’s CBS network affiliate WTVF broadcast video of the Gore dump after the then-vice presidential candidate denied the story was true. The film featured aerial shots of the debris, and included close-ups of dripping oil filters, toxic aerosol spray cans, unrecycled aluminum pesticide containers, used tires and all manner of environmentally unfriendly refuse. “It wasn’t a pristine environmental haven, it was an ugly, dangerous dump — and it could have leached into the [nearby] Caney Fork River,” one Gore critic complained at the time. During Gore’s 2000 presidential bid, the Fox News Channel unearthed and re-aired the dump clip, but the mainstream press otherwise ignored the startling news that the nation’s leading environmentalist was himself a Class A polluter. According to EPA regulations cited by the Washington Times, the pesticide dumping alone could have netted Gore over $25,000 in fines. Despite the smoking gun video of Gore’s environmental violations, there’s no record he was ever penalized for his pollution.”
More on Al Gore: In Sept., 2012, The 5 Minute Forecast reported Gore recently bought a condo in San Francisco below the level of the sea rise that he has predicted.
And Gore’s 2010 purchase of a mansion in CA. is even better.It is a $8,875,000 on a gated ocean-view villa on 1 1/2 acres with a swimming pool, spa and fountains, according to real estate sources familiar with the deal. The Italian-style house has high ceilings with beams in the public rooms, a family room, a wine cellar, terraces, six fireplaces, five bedrooms and nine bathrooms in more than 6,500 square feet of living space.” http://articles.latimes.com/2010/may/08/home/la-hm-hotprop-20100508
However, Al Gore seems to be a piker, compared to Hollywood mogul James Cameron, the man who demands us poor, unwashed masses “live with less,” who has: three massive mansions in Malibu, CA, totaling 24,000 sq. feet, none of which have solar panels or windmills (pictures at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKZ4RolQxec&NR=1&feature=fvwp) , as well as a 100 acre ranch (think of all the METHANE – which is a much worse global warming agent than CO2 – them thar cows are emitting), a Jet Ranger helicopter, three Harleys, a Corvette, a Ducatti, a Ford GT, a collection of dirt bikes, a Humvee firetruck, a collection of submarines and the obligatory Hollywood Learjet liberal yacht.
Hey dude, he invented the internet.
LOL!
An article by well-known weatherman John Coleman, founder of the WeatherChannel, now at KUSI.com also discusses the forcing, or runaway global warming phenomenon that Hawking is alluding to at http://www.kusi.com/story/14072205/global-warming noting “It is true that CO2 can absorb heat a little faster than nitrogen and oxygen but it becomes no hotter because it cannot absorb any more heat than there is available to the other gases. This is against the laws of thermodynamics. All gases share their heat with the other gases. Gas molecules fly around and are constantly colliding with other gas molecules so they immediately lose any excess heat to other molecules during these collisions. That’s why the air is all one temperature in any limited volume.• Even if CO2 levels were many times higher, radiative heating physics shows that it would make virtually no difference to temperature because it has a very limited heating ability. With CO2, the more there is, the less it heats because it quickly becomes saturated. For a detailed explanation go to: http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html.”
As evidence, the article cites Venus and Mars, that have atmospheres that are almost entirely CO2 (97%), yet have no runaway global warming, as well as noting that in the past the Earth has had CO2 concentrations hundreds of times higher, yet there were ice ages at the same time.
Dr. Fred Singer, states about water vapor in the Aug., 2007 edition of Imprimus: “…it is quite possible that the water vapor feedback is negative rather than positive and thereby reduces the effect of CO2.” . Singer notes this could be done several possible ways: if CO2 increases warming of the ocean there could be a higher rate of evaporation, leading to more cloudiness and humidity. The resulting low clouds would then reflect incoming solar radiation back into space, thus cooling the earth. It appears even the water vapor issue is, uh, cloudy, and in any event, any way you cut it, examples like these illustrate the self-regulating nature of earth, within a broad range, which is seen throughout the ages, again and again.
Further to the “feedback loop” question, Brian Hall has written in “Runawaylessness”
That “The postulate of positive feedback in the system (i.e., that water vapor multiplies the effect of CO2, which raises air and ocean temperatures driving even more CO2 and H2O into the atmosphere, and so on) has been disproven soundly in thorough experimentation … by Planet Earth. The geological record shows that every combination of low and high CO2 (slightly lower than present up to 20X current numbers) and high and low temperature (from tropical poles to ice sheets nearly to the equator) has been tried, at great length, and no “runaway” has occurred. The minute range of values we’re now experiencing and playing with thus has no more chance of causing runaway than spitting in the ocean has of causing a tsunami.
And what is the actual presence of CO2 in the atmosphere, that might cause this Hawking effect? Just over 400 ppm or less than 0.04%, up from 320 ppm, or 0.032% 50 years ago. Of the remaining percentages, nitrogen amounts for 78%, oxygen 21%. Of the 1% that then remains, 90% of that is argon, with less than 4% of that 1% being carbon dioxide (these percentages exclude highly variable water vapor, which is usually around 1 – 4% of the atmosphere – and a much more major contributor to global warming, estimated at being 50-90% of the greenhouse effect). Of course the logarithmic effect of CO2 means each additional increase has less impact that the prior, same sized increase.
And what part of the C02 is the result of man’s activities? Not very much! Per data cited at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_bbPdqYL8A&feature=youtu.be here is what man contributes: 0.117% of the total CO2 greenhouse effect, as shown in the graph below. The rest is forest fires, insects, and yet, Gov. Brown of California – cow flatulence.
And of course, the extra CO2 has helped crop, forest and grassland plants more drought resistant, helping them grow faster and better, and “greening” vast areas that had been brown and barren. Even more, about 96 to 97% of carbon dioxide comes from natural sources, such as animals, plant decay and volcanoes. In fact, relative to volcanoes, former FDA investigator Dr. Arthur Evangelista, noted that the 2010 eruption of Eyafjallajokull in Iceland emitted, in four days, enough CO2 in four days to negate every single effort mankind made that year to reduce CO2. But this volcano was a piker compared to Mt. Pinatubo, which when it erupted in the Philippines in 1991 “spewed out more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than the entire human race had emitted in its entire 40 MILLION YEARS on earth.” And this doesn’t include that fact that, as he notes the “bush fire season across the western USA and Australia this year alone will negate your efforts to reduce carbon in our world for the next two to three years. And it happens every year.”
Fact is it was WARMER in MWP, the Roman Warm Period, and the Minoan Warm Period than today According to a study published by Kegwin in Science, 1996:274:1504-1508, we are much warmer than 150 years ago, but this is simply due to the fact that that was the LIA, the coldest we have been in many thousands of year, so of course we are warmer. Kegwins study shows that today we are STILL BELOW THE 3000 year average temp. Read the study yourself. Is Hawking ignorant of this? Just not a climatologist? Has some other agenda? Hard to know, but this report of his was horse manure.
Then there’s that picea glauca (white spruce) stump on the Tuktoyaktuk Peninsula in tundra, *****some 100km north of the current treeline*****. Photo by Professor Ritchie (University of Toronto). Radiocarbon date was 4940 ±140 years Before Present (BP), and was featured in Hubert Lamb’s classic work Climate, Present, Past and Future. See http://drtimball.com/2012/sensationalist-and-distorted-climate-stories-increase-as-climate-science-failures-exposed/ for this picture, as well as other AGW info.
Similarly, re. the Medieval Warm Period that was warmer than today, two recent papers, reported by the Chinese Academy of Sciences, one in Earth-Science Reviews and the other is in Chinese Science Bulletin, reported studies of “key chemical contents in micro-drilled giant clams shells and coral samples to demonstrate that in the South China Sea the warm period of the Middle Ages was warmer than the present. The scientists examined surveys of the ratio of strontium to calcium content and heavy oxygen isotopes, both are sensitive recorders of sea surface temperatures past and present. The aragonite bicarbonate of the Tridacna gigas clam-shell is so fine-grained that daily growth-lines are exposed by micro-drilling with an exceptionally fine drill-bit, allowing an exceptionally detailed time-series of sea-temperature changes to be compiled – a feat of detection worthy of Sherlock Holmes himself. By using overlaps between successive generations of giant clams and corals, the three scientists – Hong Yan of the Institute of Earth Environment, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Willie Soon of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics and Yuhong Wang of Fudan University, Shanghai – reconstructed a record of sea-surface temperature changes going back 2500 years. The Roman and Mediaeval Warm Periods both showed up prominently in the western Pacific and East Asia. Sea surface temperatures varied considerably over the 2500-year period.” Dr. Soon concludes :” “The UN’s climate panel should never have trusted the claim that the medieval warm period was mainly a European phenomenon. It was clearly warm in South China Sea, too.”
Another study, by earth sciences professor Zunli Lu (formerly of Oxford, now at Syracuse Univ.), studied samples of crystal called ikaite, which forms in cold water, and will melt at room temperature. Samples were taken by Lu and colleagues, examined for variation caused by temperature fluctuations during formation, and dated. The result? Lu writes: “This ikaite record qualitatively supports that both the Medieval Warm Period and Little Ice Age extended to the Antarctic Peninsula.” What does this mean? It means that the MWP was not simply a localized event in northern Europe, or even the northern hemisphere. And if it was as warm 1,000 years ago as now all over the world, Al Gore is simply wrong. Study summary by the UK Register at http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/03/23/warm_period_little_ice_age_global/
fascinating!
love to read about the little ice age and study the paintings from that era, especially the clothing the people wore.
thank you for the info 🙂
Grand, sorry for writing so much. But I have done a 400 page, 700 footnote paper on the scam of AGW, and it is just that, a scam. There is ZERO consensus, and even if there were, since when has science been decided by “consensus?” Since Galileo? Copernicus? Since Hitler had published “100 Scientists Against Einstein,” to which Einstein famously replied “Why 100? If their facts are right, only one is needed.” Maybe since Ignaz Semmelweis was drummed out of the medical biz in th 1800s for insisting his docs wash their hands between operations?
Truth is, even lead warmer Phil Jones was forced to admit on BBC that the Medieval Warm Period was real. There there was the Roman Warm Period and the Minoan Warm Periods earlier, also as warm, or warmer, than today. Those DOGGONED Roman SUVs! E.g., in the MWP, Archeological Survey of Canada noted around “A.D. 1000, a warmer climate resulted in the tree line advancing 100 kilometres north of its present position.” (cited from Archeological Survey of Canada, Canada’s Visual History, The Little Ice and the Historic Inuit, http://www.civilization.ca/cmc/archeo/artic/earc10.htm. Meanwhile, http://academic.emporia.edu/aberjame/ice/lec19/holocene.htm#wine notes that during the time period 880 to 1140 AD, “Radiocarbon dates on trees that grew in Canada (were) far north of the modern timberline” that “low radiocarbon levels in tree rings indicate high solar output and presumably warmer temperatures” and there was “Minimal sea-ice cover around Iceland.”)
I wish Mac would let me do a few articles on this.Truth is, the Financial Stability Bd just reported $73 freaking TRILLION was going to be spent over the next 15 years on faux AGW.
If you need free money, time to start your own Solyndra scam!
grandee how can you believe in the Ice Age and Religion at the same time? Religious folks think the earth is only 5000-6000 years old.
Just goes to show you how fraudulent religion really is.
Here want some facts:
The Pleistocene Epoch is typically defined as the time period that began about 1.8 million years ago and lasted until about 11,700 years ago. The most recent Ice Age occurred then, as glaciers covered huge parts of the planet Earth.
There have been at least five documented major ice ages during the 4.6 billion years since the Earth was formed — and most likely many more before humans came on the scene about 2.3 million years ago.
The Pleistocene Epoch is the first in which Homo sapiens evolved, and by the end of the epoch humans could be found in nearly every part of the planet. The Pleistocene Epoch was the first epoch in the Quaternary Period and the sixth in the Cenozoic Era. It was followed by the current stage, called the Holocene Epoch.
You can’t have it both ways grandee, choose between science or Religion. You cant believe in both, so choose. You either need to believe in Facts which is called Science of discovery, or some book of fiction written by some monks looking to control the masses with a hoax.
Thanks for all the info, TEST!
I also find John L Casey’s books very informative.
“One cannot go to the mainstream media and find the truth. It’s simply not there. What you will find is lies, deception, smoke and mirrors all in an attempt to foist an Agenda 21 or ‘sustainable development’ program throughout the world… it is a fundamental socialist conspiracy that was begun many decades ago. This is now a major global effort for a new form of one world order.”
On YouTube
THE COLD SUN – John L Casey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miIEAOAOgyI
The Dark Winter:30-Year Cold Spell will Strikes Earth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9c4rv2jz78
This is all made up to promote money being spent on space travel without causing the people to reject the spending. Scare tactics…………Ecclesiastes 1:4…..the earth is standing to time indefinite. Proverbs 2:21 He has founded the earth on its established places, It will not be made to totter to time indefinite and forever. Now who are you going to believe, man or Jehovah God? If there is but one thing to enhance the earth at this time it is to stop cutting down the rain forest. And to also stop cutting down other trees and start planting more trees. An average size tree produces enough oxygen in one year to keep a family of 4 breathing. 3 trees planted in the right places around buildings can cut AC costs up to 50%. By planting 20 million trees the earth and its people will be provided with 260 million more tons of oxygen. Those same trees will remove 10 million tons of CO2, because of this trees combat climate change. Trees clean the air of pollutant gases and filter particulates by trapping them on their leaves and bark. Trees also slow water evaporation, prevent soil erosion, and provide food. I don’t believe in climate change the governments are promoting right now, but why aren’t they promoting trees? It would be a very simple and cost effective endeavor. Earth was made for man, and it will again be turned into a paradise. Waiting
God made the earth to take care of itself, it’s man who disrupts this harmony. Trees use Co2 for their growth and health while emitting oxygen as a by product of this process. What could be more ideal? Waiting
Plants are one of God’s best creations. Sunflowers, hemp, and cockscomb are scientifically known for absorbing radiation from the soil(also other heavy metals) At Chernobyl the Russians have planted hemp to help restore the damage done there. Japan has planted thousands of sunflowers to help restore the environment; due to strict laws concerning cannabis they cannot plant hemp. House plants that absorb radiation from computers are Aloe Vera, cactus, Betel Leaf Plant, Snake Plant(aka Mother-in-law tongue), Spider Plant(aka Airplane Plant), Narcissus, and Stone Lotus. God knew what He was doing. Waiting
Its all about the money…..the UN knows it.
Get rid off the EPA and all of their rules. We can not change what happens to the planet. Climate change is just a fact of life, so live with it. I don’t really care what the scientists say as long as I am making money today. I want cheap energy, cheap labor and the right to live as I want.
I’m not buying what he is hawking.
“hawking”. Now you know.
“All the worlds indeed a stage…”
I’ve always said Steven Hawking was a moron. The only reason he’s even known at all is because of his disease. Everyone treats what he says as fact, no matter how EASILY disprove it is, and no matter how outlandish and stupid it is.
First and foremost: CARBON DIOXIDE IS NOT A POLLUTANT, and never has been.
The more Carbon Dioxide there is, the better trees and plants will grow, and turns that C02 into oxygen for humans to breath. Want to decrease C02? Plant more trees and plants to eat up the C02. This is basic biology right out of high school. Many still don’t get this understanding of science. Or understanding Photosynthesis.
The equation for photosynthesis states that the combination of carbon dioxide, water and light energy produces a carbohydrate (glucose) and oxygen. The chemical formula is 6CO2 + 6H2O + light energy = C6H12O6 + 6O2
The Population growth of the world in the last hundred years is proof, there is NO decline in the production of Oxygen. When Oxygen begins to decrease then you have a problem for humans. Until then, breath easy. In fact get out of the polluted cities and into the country where all the fresh air oxygen you want, is out here. My entire property is covered in green trees and vegetation which produces O2. The oxygen is great where I live. And I noticed a big difference when I moved from the city to the country. Want to avoid cancer and asthma, move out of the cities and away from where coal fired power plant are that spew their BS cancerous carcinogens.
I’m not sufficiently educated with access to the facts to prove or disprove allegations from either side of this debate. What is clear is that the developing world, the greatest contributor of carbon to atmosphere is exempt. While I don’t have a handle on the science I can both do the math and know when I’m being hoodwinked.
Its a scam to facilitate the transfer of industrial capacity to the developing world.
Kevin; Right on all counts. Its all about control and transfer of wealth. Poor countries benefit 100%. Western civilization suffers most and in the end all suffer.
Kev, I have cited some information in my posts to get you started. I would respectfully submit to you that, the $73 TRILLION dollars the Financial Stability Bd estimates will be spent on AGW over the next 15 years, you may want to get up to speed on this, which will IMPOVERISH and indebt perhaps billions of people.
As UN IPCC Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning PhD environmental physical chemist, said, Warming fears are the “worst scientific scandal in the history…When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists.” –
That 73 Trillion dollars would be better spent on protecting the low-lying lands and cities subject to sea level rises than on nonsensical attempts to stop the warming from happening.
The world has been warming since the last Ice Age millions of years ago. Way before man can on the scene. And nobody is going to stop it or collecting taxes to pay off global warming. Its a bigger hoax that Religion. Time to shoot and hang all the liars. They are just chaos makers. Death to all chaos makers.
We can’t see gravity, but we know it exists.
We can’t see oxygen, but we know it exists.
See where I’m going……
Total scam, especially since there is scientific proof that the planet has undergone freeze/thaw cycles multiple times throughout the eons,,, man is an insignificant speck
I keep out of the science argument as I can come up short changed in the debate. I stick to the undeniable part which is the exemption for the developing world. China has surpassed the US in atmospheric carbon emissions in 2012 and therefore the greatest contributor of carbon is exempt. I was told by a “believer” in this nonsense “but China is not as great as the US per capita”. Now we’re getting somewhere as the goal is to EQUALIZE nations not reduce overall emissions. If its about the life of the people on the planet these exemptions are not just illogical but show the ostensible nature of the proposed agreements.
Know what the difference is between a Nursery School and the Governments around the world?
The Nursery School is supervised by Adults.
Nail. Not true, there have been many ice ages and thaws. Go look up Ice ages. Glaciers, and thaws. Winter comes every year follower by spring and then summer.
Just because you live on Maui and the weather is always about the same with wonderful trade winds,….. come to the Mainland and experience winter. haha.
Sorry Nail, I misread your comment, Yes we both agree. Enjoy your weather.
I immediately discredit anything Hawkins has to say he is just plain bitter and needs to do some SOUL searching!
Proven fact that Climates change but not man made! I hope is is first to Mars or wherever it is the freaks wants to go.
Global Warming BS is a money scam for enslavement and depopulation by miscreants.
I can do gymnastics around his scrawny ass.
Is it possible that Steeevvvauh doesn’t actually say anything, at this point, and his handlers are putting words in his mouth? Or maybe he has gone full retard. I have read a bit about his personal life though. The guy is an asshole. Never mind, he’s devolved into a sack of crap in a cart.
Hawking. A smart man who says really stupid shit.
Hawking. A smart man who says really stupid shit.
Hawking died a long time ago. That thing is a mannequin whose robot voice spouts out the official party doctrine on command.
True, but it is a cool voice though.
Hawking is a lying parasite who never produced anything. He is a oxygen thief. He has zero credibility. The Glowbull warming -Climate change is a bigger lie hoax – (Religion)? than the faked moon landing in 69. There isn’t any person group or eneity that has any authority to decide what the optimal climate is or should be. If the climate is changing its not caused by mans activities. Man isn’t the cause and man certainly cannot mitigate any clmate changing that happens. The Guy on the Watts up with That. Website has some good info.
Correct…he has accomplished Nothing. He just peddles theory, and his theory is his opinion. Having a high IQ, and applying it to something useful are two different things.
The man does calculus in his head. His mathematical abilities are staggering. Any one of us, not inflicted with his inability to communicate, are far smarter with politics and human nature. Seen Dustin Hoffman in Rainman? I’ll have him work out math but don’t trust him to tell me when to cross the street.
Climate is the definition of change. Weather forecasters have lied to me so often I lump them in with politicians. And now they are predicting climate from a computer program that cannot even get cloud cover correct. What could possibly go wrong? Chem trailing during a solar minimum cycle initiating a mini ice age maybe. Warm we can deal with cold is a very different matter. When carbon taxes plant a tree, when the Fukushima sizzle is stopped then maybe I will learn to understand hypocrisy. Maybe they should incorporate the denial and blackout of information they incorporate with Fukushima and use in on climate change and let us get on with getting on. All this think control is absurd. I get eight months of winter and four months of bad weather here, always have, always will. Guilt taxes will never change that.
Grandpa,
I have said for some time, the solution to many of the worlds climate problems is simple… plant more trees…
This is being done on the edge of the Sahara desert, by one man, and he is recovering a portion of the desert… now if governments actually wanted to do something positive, and also cheap…
I wrote an article about Stephen Hawking and God, and like the life of Einstein, was greatly saddened by his human failings.If you do some research into Hawking, you find a very sad man, who hates God for his lot in life.
This makes him manipulable for all kinds of grandiose BS from the left. No telling what the payoff for him saying these outlandish things was, but I bet he’s being paid off in some way.
Also, he hasn’t found the Unified Field, and finally just pronounced it can’t exist(because He didn’t find it?) The Unified Field cannot be found until you put God back in the equation. The Unified Field of God has been found, and published, yet, in this world if you’re not one of ‘them’, you are ignored into obscurity, like Tesla.
Tesla was smarter than Einstein, he invented the 20th century. Hawking, has written children’s books…
The sad truth is the genius Tesla died a pauper. When tenders for the Niagara project were tendered by JP Morgan, John Westinghouse and Nicolas Tesla submitted their plans. Tesla had already proven long distance transfer of electricity without the use of wires was feasible. JP Morgan asked Tesla that this technology interested him but how could they meter the electricity produced. Tesla said that would be difficult. Westinghouse got the contract and we got the meters. It is curious that money seems to flow in lines just like electricity.
Thats why a giant solar flare would be excellent, burn all that shit out and start from 0
A solar flare power grid shutdown would shutdown hawking too? No computer.
Grandpa,
No matter… Tesla did the inventing, not Einstein. If you want to get picky, Einstein did help ‘invent’ one thing… the atomic bomb. His greatest regret.
I agree, Tesla got screwed by JP Morgan and Co…
If I remember correctly, Piper, Hawking’s first wife was a Christian. But it is true – the issue of theodicy (why God allows evil) is perhaps the hardest thing we have to wrestle with in life. And suffering is NOT distributed evenly! It is my greatest struggle as well, and I wonder how many of those mocking Jesus on this site have also had similar issues. But for them to cut themselves off on that basis from the ONLY thing – rather, the only one – that can give life, is unfortunate and sad. I always say that before I became a Christian, I wasn’t going to Hell, I actually *was* in Hell. I wasn’t living some horrible life as an axe murderer or drug dealer, etc. (heck, I didn’t own an axe, and I hate drugs), but that didn’t make me any less lost.
Where is your article on Hawking? Let us know!
This guy Hawking is doing just that – he’s ‘hawking’ stuff. He has been spouting off about this nonsense before.
Who else do you know with the disease he has that has lived to the age of 75? Who else??? Just this guy??
What are the odds for him to have lived this long?
My opinion here – it won’t buy you a cup of coffee – but I suspect he’s being given special medications/treatment to keep him alive that we will never see.
And in exchange for ‘them’ keeping him alive, he reads the script that they give him. If he stops ‘hawking’ the ‘global warming’, er, excuse me, ‘climate change’ script then they let him die, hurt his family, etc.
Just a theory.
Fillerup!
Going to go drive my truck around the neighborhood a few times to salute global warming
ok,
my fellow physicist, Hawking; is just an ideologue. Now, on an measurable scale, he is much smarter than I am but that doesn’t mean that what he believes and is professing he is correct just because he is smarter than I.
Now, what is written here covers things pretty well, but I want to emphasize the point that what Hawking is putting forth, a dramatic increase because Trump pulls the USA out of the paris accords, just is not going to happen.
Taking away the fact that even CO2 output by countries that simply do not care what happens to the local environment will improve and reduce CO2 output over time by better capture and more environmentally efficient production will reduce CO2 levels within likely 25 years, the temperature will not spike.
As show in this write up, the CO2 levels have been much higher with similar atmospheric conditions to day and temperatures where relatively the same.
To make what our current level of CO2 output in the atmosphere is to something everyone could understand would be this.
Take 4 gallons of water and put one drop of poison in it and mix it up really well. Do you expect you will die if you drank that ? No you will not because the dilution is too great, but Hawking is expecting than one or maybe two drops is going to change the entire atmospheric conditions.
He is just wrong and fear mongering.
He’s brilliant and I am sorry for his condition, but his fear mongering is dangerous. You know there are many high school and college professors that are putting this out to their students and most of those students will accept it without merit.
Just for clarification, 1 drop of poison to 4 gallons of water is very close to being equivalent of what current CO2 is in the atmosphere.
A ‘physicist’ calling co2 poison?
But, I thought, plants need it to breathe?
And thus, create oxygen for US to breathe…
Hmmm…
I’m hoping you meant this as metaphor and not literal.
Yes, I just use that as an example that people can relate to, I came up with the idea earlier this year and figured out the equivalents of what .0004 percent of carbon in the atmosphere would equate to in water.
I am 199% in favor of more use of carbon as it is and will be the cheapest source of energy for some time and it does help plant growth.
Since most people cannot comprehend just how large our atmosphere’s volume is in comparison to the CO2 people and mostly the world’s oceans emitl I thought this example works best.
That should be 100 percent.
Hey Lena, you are a physicist in what area, what field??
astrophysicist
just like JOG….were you here when he was?
Really?
I hope your qualifications as an Astrophysicist is better than your grammar.
The word Astrophysicist, begins with a capital A, if it’s a title word
Stephen Hawking is an expert on physics but not on everything! He is expressing his opinion which everyone is entitled to do. Climate does change on a continuous basis. Human activity is one of the factors for that change. I don’t know how significant. I’d love to see more of our energy needs met by solar and wind and it is getting more competitive. It isn’t there yet so we will still have to rely on fossil fuels for some time to come.
There are good reasons for reducing our use of fossil fuels other than global warming. Securing control of oil and gas supplies is behind a lot of the conflicts in the world today. Extracting oil and gas through fracking is weakening the earth’s crust. Burning coal, even with filters, poisons the water and air.
The Vostok ice cores PROVE that temp rises – at least at that time – PRECEDED the C02 rise. Google Vostok ice cores.
The very best site for AGW study is https://wattsupwiththat.com/
I would also STRONGLY urge everyone here to sign up for The Week That Was, which provides a weekly scientific summary from peer reviewed scientists, and other news on the AGW issue. Sign up here; http://www.sepp.org/the-week-that-was.cfm
CRACK SOME SKULLS, 100% NSA TROLL
It looks Like NSA troll cracksomeskulls is really trying to keep his reputation up on this site. Every month you people come on here, changing your handle, and when I haven’t posted in a week, and I post, you jump on immediately and attack me. Whats wrong, getting a little scared about me leaking out sensitive shit, you think you got the Nibiru situation under the carpet, that’s its gone, while you are your employers are telling the public bullshit about Russia is getting ready to launch a satellite that will be look like a huge star, the brightest star in the in night sky, just sitting there and not moving, like I am so fucking stupid that satellites don’t rotate around the earth in geo orbit. Nice try you lying fucks. I know that that thing is. Once Planet X shows up, the people are going to start asking questions, all over the globe, do your busy working on damage control. When the fuck did Russia announce that they were launching such a satellite? They did not. Nice try fools. And let me get it the satellite will be Blue in color, what about the moons orbiting that satellite, don’t forget to cover up that part also. You all are in deep shit now.
YOU ARE A TOTAL FRICKING TROLL. YOU ARE HIGHLY TRAINED, BUT ONCE YOU CALL BULLSHIT ON ME, THAT WAS THE MISTAKE.
As for Hawkins, don’t listen to brain dead idiots who have cabalist scientist type on BS on his computer, telling us about global warning bull crap. The only reason why the earth is heating up from CO2 is because they implemented fossil fuel and polluted this planet and blamed the people, as if we are the one, the workers who kept polluting the planet, while they are going around killing off holistic doctors, scientist, and threatening scientist like my friend, running mock bomb attacks over his house out in the country, sending air force officers to his door telling him to keep his mouth shut or else. Let me tell you something cracksumskulls, just shut the fuck and don’t insult my intelligence troll. Leaks are happening all the time and the cablaist workers are sick and tired of you pedofile bankers who keep telling us, that we are the problem, and we already know about the race of tall whites in the bases all over the fucking country, and all this race is telling you, crap about, we better reduce the population or else and the reptilians, their allies, and all the problems that you all discovered under President Licoln, since he was the first president who was briefed by the military when they found about the giant skelletons that they kept finding all over the country, so just shut the fuck up troll. You don’t on here talking crap about me dumbass.
HCKS.
HCKS:
It will be very easy to test whether the “brightest star” is a little piece of reflective material or a real planet.
Gravity from the moon causes the ocean tides. Gravity from a planet that close would cause tidal waves in the ocean.
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LMAO really? I thought that guy was smart..he’s a dumbazz
OT: I noticed the time at 12:34 PM and felt something was up. I went to this site, and then ZeroHedge and noticed the article about NASDAQ ordering a trade halt due to a “glitch” that sent stocks crashing to 123.47 per share.
Very curious.
That is all. As you were.
“Turn the Earth into Venus”… you say that like it’s a bad thing.
Oh evolution, you fuckup. Apes, really? Great idea.
Venus, planet of love
There’s only two reasonable explanations for this bizarre prediction. Either Hawking’s brilliant mind is going senile, or he’s pushing alarmist claims in the hopes that it will scare us all into supporting climate change initiatives that he thinks will save our planet.
Or three, as some tinfoil conspiracy once said, he’s actually dead and his visage is now being used as a sock puppet.
There comes a time that even the smartest of us must pass the baton to the next generation to continue the work and build upon it. It is during this time that the unscrupulous will take advantage of honestly built reputations to promote political agendas that demean everyone involved. I am afraid that this is what has happened to Dr. Hawkins. God bless him for all he has contributed to mankind.
the world is full of brain dead people that will accept any thing they hear
http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2017/07/02/ciadeep-state-forcing-hungry-venezuelan-girls-into-sex-trafficking-rings/
Looks like the Clintons and the banker pedofile rapist, women and child traffickers have set up camp in Venesuela. I guess cracksomeskulls will attack me again, reminding SHTF
CRACK SOME SKULLS SUPPORTS THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR.
Is this what your trying to cover up troll. Is this why Mr Hodges lacks credibility? Get some sleep tonight troll, I know you have been working fulltime. Maybe you need to change you handle again, and come up with a new name next.
http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2017/07/02/ciadeep-state-forcing-hungry-venezuelan-girls-into-sex-trafficking-rings/
Go ahead cracksomeskulls, tell me, tell us that David Hodges lacks credibility. Nice try, that bullshit does not work around here at shtf. Your bosses, the Clintons have finally set up a child, women sex slave kidnapping ring in Venesuela. Looks like your boses are running out to children again.
I Know Mr cracksomskulls, its the skulls of women and kids that you cracking isn’t it. You fucking agency ass clown piece of shit troll.
HCKS.
David Hodges in 100% credible.
Fucking trolls, don’t you love em.
Some posters should heed the advice that it better to not say anything. and let folks think they are stupid. Than to post random gibberish and outlandish claims and confirm that they are not only stupid but they are mental whack jobs or excapees from the nut house.
Aw, come on now, Old Guy. It’s pure entertainment to read some of these posts.
The bipolar/ skitzo types flourish here. Makes you wonder about who has to work next to
some of these folks for 8 hours a day. Glad it’s not me. hah!
wonder who that could be? Hmmm……..good call.
Jim, I can think of several people but I won’t mention their names.
Deplorable Braveheart:
Here is an example of something outlandish that may in the end turn out to be true:
Kermit Roosevelt = Walt Disney = Adolf Hitler
All the same person:
Kermit died young. Both Disney and Adolf were artists. Disney was a 32nd degree Mason.
Disney had a brother. Adolf had Joseph Goebbels. Both the same person.
It is a well known fact that Hitler had many doubles.
Will the real Adolf Hitler please stand up.
I may post crazy shit, but at least I know it’s crazy. Crazy shit sometimes shocks us when we find out in the end that it is true.
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There are a number of celebrities who died at age 27.
They supposedly staged these deaths and many have emerged with different public identities.
Janis Joplin emerged as Amy Goodman
Jane Mansfield as Betty White
Henry Morgan was Taft wearing a nose prosthesis as a disguise.
Can life get stranger than this, if it turns out to be true.
All actors and frontmen for the many men in the shadows calling the shots.
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Since I’m posting crazy shit, here goes.
Mind control consists of keeping the public traumatized.
How do we know that the assassinations of the Kennedys, Martin Luther King and Malcolm X weren’t staged. We don’t know. We believe it because we saw it on TV. Just how much of what we know is just FAKE NEWS. Are you confused. Don’t know what’s real anymore. Seems like a perfect state to keep slaves under control.
All I know is that war is bs, and I don’t want anything to do with it.
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Awesome news Stevie! Bring it on!
Even Hawking (c)an’t (u)nderstand (n)ormal (t)hinking.
You and your kind are the true alarmists…You spew half truths, construct strawmen and willfully ignore actual empirical evidence.
We do not have to burn all the carbon on the planet to make it unlivable we only need to tip the scale so that natural forces go into feedback loops….The dinosaurs didn’t do what we do, they were part of the balanced system until the comet came. We are NOT part of a balanced system…we alter the system!
Go do a little study on how much methane will be released currently locked up in massive deposits of permafrost and below the sea in huge fragile deposits.
Then apologize for such a poor essay
Do some actual study before you write infantile opinions
Robert there never was such a thing as your so called Balance of nature. That’s a lie myth just the same as man caused and man mitigated Glowbull Warming. When the temps didn’t go up and the seas didn’t rise. The liars started calling it climate change. Follow the money and you will find the truth. Hint Fat Al Gore has made Millions by peddling the globull warning Lie Myth Hoax- Religion.
The only evidence needed to debunk man made climate change.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_core#/media/File:Vostok_Petit_data.svg
Daniel 2:43. We have a way.
The single most important question – will hops grow on Venus?
Old guy, that post was in reference to csk’s attack on me on a previous post. I am not from a nut house, never been to one, didn’t come from one. F16’S did do a mock bomb attack on my friend house. I have had posters back in the past asking me if they can meet with me in person. This has happened, and I will not be showing up. I am not sure when you jumped on this site. I have posted 3:00 am in the morning to test the response and get attacked by trolls, telling me shit about, “your still up this late posting” if you met me in person of if anyone from this site, that met me in person would really be supprised when I have my scientist friend show up, and prove to you that he is the real deal, then we show you what he has and has built, I can promise that I wont be getting made fun off. In fact I have been thinking about meeting up with Mac in person since he lives in the woodlands, and not very far from Houston. I AM GOING TO TELL YOU ALL THIS AGAIN. EXTRA TERRESTRIALS TOOK CONTROL OF ALL THE MAJOR GOVERNMENTS OF THE PLANET IN THE 1920’S. THESE ALIENS PROXI GOVERNMENTS AND POPULATIONS ON EACH OTHER. They mine our DNA, USE US A FOOD SOURCE, have kept us in a lock down on this planet for years. The enemy, the Nordic, Plejarens. {;pledians” returned and started a war with this reptilian grey faction. All whites are decendants of that plejaren race. You people on this site have no earthly idea what is happening on this planet. MASSIVE SHIPS THE SIZE OF PLANETS ARE PULLING INTO THE SOLAR SYSTEM WEEKLY, DAILY, BECAUSE earth is getting ready to go Type One, and before any planet goes type one, a global uprising of the entire planet happens first, all the major governments get wiped out by it citizens, the people take back control declare planet wide impendence, form a world government that’s run by the people. And the people then choose a Type One race to take sides with, and then join the Galactic community, and then gain access to space. I am going to stop posting on this site permanently coming up here soon, and I will vanish eventually. There are people in the military, in the intelligence community that know what I am posting here right now and they damn well know that what I posting here are some DAMNING FACTS.
Everytime I say that I am done posting, I keep hearing people tell me not to stop, its going to stop coming up here soon. In fact this may very well be the last time that I ever post on this site. We the people in this country are in grave danger and in a lot of trouble. We are in so much trouble.
HCKS.
Just a note to any other sane people here: yes, the author and the commenters here are totally full of bullshit. No credible scientist has ever made predictions as the author suggests. Note that he cited no one. Now that near-term human extinction is a real possibility due to abrupt climate change (which we are beginning to experience. It’s no longer a prediction), several scientists are giving our species as little as 9 more years. It’s terrifying, but I hope to enjoy watching the Deniers go batshit crazy before my internet goes down.
Just what we need a Total retard telling us what to do. O yes he’s very smart. Compared to what?F you retard worshipers. He is not a great thinker. He is a slug.
Ive read all this on “Before its news”…..check it out!
Maybe he is getting “under the table cash” for saying these provocative things. I suggest he considers a trip to Venus.
For me the best thing is to remember DTA. Don’t Trust Anyone 100%. I don’t believer anything I see hear or read on the internet or media. And only half of what I see with my very own eyes. It seems every one and every thing has some sort of hidden agenda. Usually the truth can be determined if you follow the money.
Miles Mathis at MileswMathis dot com wrote a report not long ago that demonstrated the real Stephen Hawking died and that this one is an imposter.
Even if untrue, Hawkins might be a tool of the globalists.
“Even if untrue, Hawkins might be a tool of the globalists.”
NO doubt!
God confounds those wise in their own eyes with those who are simple and just put their faith in God and His Word. In the Bible, God says, “As I live, the Earth will last forever.”
Its unfair to attack Hawking on this. The data in circulation, call it 1+1 is cherry picked through TPTB controlling the research and having the media squashing any research outside of their control. So Hawking is handed 1+1 and comes up with 2 with all of its ramifications. Its simply trash in = trash out.
Nope its not unfair to attack Hawking. The fact is his opinion is wrong. Yet his opinion has the potential cause damage to others. When stupid laws , Epa regs and Taxes are passed that add to the cost of production. That cost is eventually passed on to the consumer. I don’t like folks who for whatever reason have some standing & credibility and then use their fame to furthur some political agenda. He is a Physicist So he knows that you cannot make something into nothing and cannot make something from nothing. The fact is every thing in on or about the planet is a natural thing. It will always be present in some form- some place and in some manner. So man releases some sequestered matter and extracts the energy stored in it. That energy was stored by the sun. As soon as it is released the planet begins recycling that spent matter. The planet and its climate has been warming , cooling and changing since the beginning. Long before man arrived and began using the sequestered elements. If Hawking is as smart as they claim He should know this.
He does calculus in his head; you tell me. I get a headache just looking at it.
K.I.S.S.
True or False?
1. Plants make Oxygen. (“Photosynthesis”)
2. Animals make Carbon Dioxide. (“Respiration”)
Are there more or less plants than (x) years ago?
Are there more or less animals than (x) years ago?
x is pretty much any generation-long, or longer, time…
Using just two facts, think for yourself and figure it out.
you state the problem we have few thinkers.
Grampa
this fake has been dead for years
no one lives with his afliction for much past 8 to 10 years ..this is a fake , he is a fake , and everything that comes out of him is fake
cant believe no one researches what he is inflicted with, not one person has lived as long as they say he is with his ailments
and its not like money can buy him more time , its not like that
I agree with ya Rebel
the opinion of one man on global warming does not make it true. as with any computer analog or digital when you have faulty data input we get incorrect output. I had a close friend who displayed with much pride the program he wrote that planned out global warming. he said he has tried every method to disprove its accuracy. I said OK put in a set of numbers and run it.He did. I asked him to run the program backwards and it should have the numbers he started with. he agreed that it should. it didnt! if the program was accurate it would return to the starting numbers. We have climate change. it is dependent on an infinite number of variables. man being one of the variables we alone cannot effect the outcome.
Grampa
He seems unaware of ClimateGate, disproven models and actual climate behavior.
Test…Thank you for the thorough and scholarly contributions you always make to this site.
Today, your cogent arguments clearly refute both the proliferation of anti-Christian sentiments so commonplace here, but also skilfully pursue the global warming theme to great effect.
Hypocrites such as Al Gore would do well to walk their talk if actually convinced of the ‘warming’ delusion.
The Bible calls Hawking a fool (Ps.14:1) and I concur.
I just read the article over at the daily sheeple. I agree with it. Hawking died long ago. You don’t live 50 years with ALS. The longest lsting person to have it lived 20 years. most who get ALS die in four years.
Let’s face it. Hawking is a Mathematician. ‘Nuff said.
I’ll just leave this hear for those interested in a detailed summary of what is taking/might take place.
https://guymcpherson.com/climate-chaos/climate-change-summary-and-update/
Mr. Hawking is a brilliant man but his choice of politics is execrable, IMO. He also needs to be introduced to the concept of negative feedback loops which prevent unlimited global warming and other nonsense.
When the predictions of the GW alarmists are matched against the data for the past 200 or so years, their bleating is nonsensical. Their own models do not predict what we already know happened. It is the essence of science that such things be predictable based on physical evidence. When they are not, such as in this case, then the reasoning behind and the premises of the “science” have failed. Once that occurs, everything that follows is invalid, no matter how passionately it is presented as factual.
Venus is 800 degrees. I don’t think the Earth is ever going to come close to that.