ISIS Fires American-Made Missiles At Syrian Army: “U.S. Funding, Arming ISIS From the Beginning”

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    This analysis was originally published by Brandon Turbeville at Activist Post.

    The fact that the United States and NATO are arming the death squads fighting the secular government of Bashar al-Assad is, by now, accepted news in both the alternative and mainstream media circles. However, due to the U.S. State Department’s and its media mouthpieces’ incessant claims that there is such a thing as “moderate” rebels vs. extremist rebels in Syria, it is not considered “credible” or mainstream to suggest that the United States is, in fact, arming extremists.

    Of course, the reality is that there is no such thing as “moderate rebels” in Syria. The truth is that the FSA, largely presented as “moderate,” is, in actuality, the same thing as Al-Qaeda, Al-Nusra, and ISIS.

    Regardless, the mainstream press and the governments that it represents continue to push the deception of “moderates” as well as the claim that NATO is opposed to ISIS. These claims, however, are becoming increasingly difficult to maintain as more and more evidence emerges from the Syrian front demonstrating them to be patently false.

    Such evidence involves reports producing evidence of ISIS’ possession of American military hardware and strong suspicion that the United States is providing direct guidance and assistance to the terrorist organization.

    For instance, in a report published by The Independent, entitled, “How did Islamists receive American weapons? See the evidence from guided missile that exploded near Syrian front line,” Robert Fisk writes that

    Syria’s special forces troops are strung out across a pinnacle of hills here just north east of Lattakia on one of the country’s most dangerous front lines, under daily missile attack from reinforced rebel forces now supported by Isis.

    The officers, all of whom are paratroopers, speak of new tactics and upgraded weapons used against them since Isis seized the Iraqi city of Mosul – and some of the radio traffic they listen to from their enemy is in the Chechen or Georgian languages.

    Intelligence reports speak of a unification of various rebel factions calling themselves the “Legion of the Coast”, a clear sign that the Isis-inspired rebels – including Isis supporters themselves – intend to strike westwards towards the Mediterranean, scarcely eight miles away.

    It’s fair bet that a big battle is shaping up in these pine-covered mountains.

    […]

    The soldiers themselves talk of the thermal heat-seeking missiles fired at them with detailed knowledge, and agree that the mixture of Islamist groups above and to the east of them are carrying out daily probing attacks to test their defences.

    Intriguingly, their surveillance patrols are returning at dawn to report the sound of unidentified night-time aircraft flying into Syrian airspace from Turkey and then east, deep into Syria.

    The aircraft flying overhead at nighttime is obviously suspected to be American or at least NATO-operated flights, although the Syrian forces are unsure of exactly who the aircraft belongs to or even if the flights are actual planes or drones.

    Fisk continues with his description of the arms that ISIS militants have recently procured by writing,

    But their officers talk of the new TOW anti-armour weapons that have appeared in rebel hands.

    One officer showed me an Islamist website videotape of rebels firing a heat-seeking rocket at his own encampment just to the north of here at Qastel Ma’af. The missile can be seen exploding but in fact disintegrated against concrete revetments around a tank.

    Most notably, Fisk recounts how parts of an ISIS-fired missile, which were brought in for evaluation by the Syrian Special Forces, actually contained damning proof that the weapons were American made. He writes,

    But when a corporal dragged a sack load of missile parts into a room in this Syrian hill-top fortress, it contained some fascinating evidence of the rebel armoury. Most missiles fragment into thousands of pieces on detonation but just over a month ago – on 26 September – a guided missile exploded deep beneath sand and earth and the fragments clearly show the name of its American arms manufacturer, circuit boards and the coding of the weapon.

    Part of the missile identifies the “Eagle-Piche IND (Indiana) INC.” company as the manufacturer and says, in English, that it is “helium charged”, adding – rather ironically as it turns out — the words: “CAUTION — CONTAINS 6400 PSIG He (high explosive), FEDERAL LAW FORBIDS TRANSPORATION IF REFILLED — PENALTY UP TO $25,000 AND FIVE YEARS IMPRISONMENT (49 USC 1809). The Syrians do not know how this weapon – which appears to have been manufactured as long ago as 1989 – made its way from the US to the hands of their country’s Islamist rebels – but it would not be difficult for the Americans to find out. Its full computer coding reads: DOT-E7694 NRC6400/11109/M1033 79294 ASSY 39317 MFR 54080.

    A battery tube from another missile fired on the fourth of last month carries an inscription indented in the metal: “132964 Battery thermal MFG DATE 12/90 LOT No (indecipherable numeral then 912 S/N 005959.”

    These codes should make it easy for the Americans to identify the purchaser – or receiver – of the weapon, if they choose to do so.

    Fisk goes on to ask the pertinent question of “How did the Islamists receive these American weapons? On the international arms market? Or from ‘moderate’ rebels who were given American weapons and then sold them to the highest bidder?”

    The answer, of course, is clear.

    ISIS received these weapons because the United States and NATO have been funding and arming ISIS from the very beginning. The U.S. has been arming the terrorists ever since 2010, when violence, shootings, and indiscriminate killings erupted in Syria (reported as “peaceful protests” in Western media). Before, during, and ever since, the United States and NATO have continued to support, train, arm, fund, and direct the death squads attempting to overthrow the Assad government.

    From covert CIA assistance to actual coordination from death squad experts like Robert Ford, the United States and NATO were directly responsible for the Syrian crisis. By supporting the “rebels” early on, NATO was, in fact, supporting ISIS, since ISIS is nothing more than the current name for what was already in place in Syria when NATO embarked on its destabilization campaign in 2010.

    Similar assistance was provided by Syria’s neighbors and fellow Middle Eastern countries with Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and a number of other Gulf State Feudal monarchies providing many of the terrorists and the money needed to pay and supply them. Jordan provided training grounds and logistics, Turkey provided the conduit and air support, and Israel provided air cover and intelligence.

    Such coordination and military support continues in 2014, with the U.S. now engaging in air strikes that are aimed not at ISIS but at Syrian infrastructure.

    In addition, many death squad fighters were recently re-armed by having arms passed from the United States to terrorist brigades that are presented as “moderate” by the mainstream media. These terrorists then immediately passed these arms to Jobhat al-Nusra.

    While the revelations that ISIS forces have access to as well as possession of U.S.-made missiles are by no means shocking revelations, they are yet one more puzzle piece fitting together the tangled web of deception that the United States and NATO have woven in their effort to overthrow Bashar Al-Assad and the secular Syrian government.


    Brandon Turbeville is an author out of Florence, South Carolina. He has a Bachelor’s Degree from Francis Marion University and is the author of six books, Codex Alimentarius — The End of Health Freedom, 7 Real ConspiraciesFive Sense Solutions and Dispatches From a Dissident, volume 1 and volume 2, and The Road to Damascus: The Anglo-American Assault on Syria. Turbeville has published over 300 articles dealing on a wide variety of subjects including health, economics, government corruption, and civil liberties. Brandon Turbeville’s podcast Truth on The Tracks can be found every Monday night 9 pm EST at UCYTV.  He is available for radio and TV interviews. Please contact activistpost (at) gmail.com.

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      1. ISIS stands for ….Israeli Secret Intelligence Service….the head guy you keep seeing is a MOSSAD agent. There is video of JOHN MCCAIN metting with this man without his fake beard.

        google this term: Mccain meets with rebels in syria…you will see this man meeting with John Mccain.

          • Those who can do, those who cannot teach.

            We have made an industry out of the inexperienced person being the primary instructors.

            We are now getting what we deserve.

            Geography teachers who have never been anywhere.
            History teachers in their twenties.
            Social studies teachers who have never served in government of any type.
            Social science teachers who couldn’t spot a psychological disorder if they were paid to.
            Business teachers who have never run a business.
            Phy Ed. teachers who are out of shape and don’t know that salad usually contains some form of lettuce.
            English teachers who are more concerned about thought censorship than the quality of writing.
            Math that……well, that is pretty straight-forward.
            Shop teachers with missing fingers that teach equipment safety….OK, I guess we all really do need to listen to those people.

            My point is, a lot of these people do not deserve the position, authority, and the respect that they are granted. These same people are also the last ones to realize that point. These are the people who get angry and jealous when a former student, who may or may not have gone on to a higher education, opens a business and ends up making more than said teacher. Life just doesn’t seem to be fair in those instances. So some of these teachers, who probably shouldn’t be allowed to teach monkeys to throw shit, end up twisting young peoples’ views towards their parents and life in general.

            We are getting what we deserve.

            I am going to cut my rant short before I get really pissed.

            The inmates are now running the asylum.

              • Yes because when a nation is being led by a black man then it must be screwed according to inbred gun toting white red necks like u eh?

                • why does the color of the rapist or murderer matter?

                  funny that the apologists are always bringing race into the debates even while they accuse everyone else of being racist…

            • Love your rant, Bazinga.
              Reminiscent of virgins discussing fucking.

            • Here’s a short article that most here will find quite compelling:

              Thomas Sowell: Obama’s Weakness, Ineptitude Are By Design, Part Of The Plan…

              ht_tp://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-viewpoint/111014-725756-thomas-sowell-congress-judiciary-will-have-to-stop-obamas-reckless-agenda-in-final-two-years.htm

              • Sixpack. Obama= Capt Chaos!!

              • Here is another part of the plan…transfer of wealth from the middle class to the top percent.

                Update on their progress…

                The Fed Won: America’s 0.1% Are Now Wealthier Than The Bottom 90%

                “In the late 1920s the bottom 90% held just 16% of America’s wealth—considerably less than that held by the top 0.1%, which controlled a quarter of total wealth just before the crash of 1929. From the beginning of the Depression until well after the end of the second world war, the middle class’s share of total wealth rose steadily, thanks to collapsing wealth among richer households, broader equity ownership, middle-class income growth and rising rates of home-ownership.

                From the early 1980s, however, these trends have reversed. The top 0.1% (consisting of 160,000 families worth $73m on average) hold 22% of America’s wealth, just shy of the 1929 peak—and almost the same share as the bottom 90% of the population.”

                Zerohedge

            • This is what Happens when the NWO Takes over a Country and sets the laws: To Track, Disarm then Ban “Guns” for the populace.

              UK: Doctors told to report on gun owners’ mental state:
              Owners of shotguns and other firearms are to have medical files permanently marked. If they develop health conditions which could lead to a gun being used, either against others or themselves, or not kept safely, doctors would have to inform the police. The tightening of the gun laws — being discussed by police, the Home Office and medical bodies — is opposed by many doctors who fear it will compromise patient confidentiality.
              Source: NRA and http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/Crime/article1481378.ece

              Florida passed 5 strong PRO-Gun Laws this Year, including against the law for any insurance company to discriminate on gun owners, bans doctors from ratting on patients, and allowing warning shots with no violation to stop a crime.

              We need to pound these NWO Terrorists back into their hidey holes, then pour gasoline in the vent pipes and drop the road flare. Let er’ Rip!! WWTI

              • WWTI:

                Explain how Florida managed to pass those pro gun laws and yet Washington state did just the opposite.

                Those “old fart” voters in Florida, being disparaged by some, seems they have not succumbed to the brainwashing.

            • A huge part of the problem is the assumption by many that education equals wisdom.

              It does not. We have many educated idiots….many of whom are at the top of the political food-chain.

              There is very little wisdom taught or acquired on the university campuses of this country.

              Thomas Sowell said that much of the history of the past thirty years has been replacing what worked, with what sounded good.

              Most of the lunacy in the policies adopted by our government can be attributed to people with advanced degrees. Most of them couldn’t reason their way out of a paper sack.

          • The letters “He” as used in the above article DO NOT mean “high explosive” but rather are the Periodic Table symbol for Helium…

        • Happy Veterans day. A good time to reflect on what or whom you served. First let me tell you I have a lot of Nam vet friends that I love. The vietnam war was not a volunteer war and those that refused could face lengthy prison sentences (extremely unlawful). Most people knew it was a bullshit war and hated the govt. with good reason but were forced to serve or else. The psycopaths used it as an excuse to kill with impunity. Many people were permanantly fooked up from what they went through. My heart goes out to them (the non volunteers or those that knew it was coming to them). It should have been a lesson to all future generations! But no, to the contrary, many young and foolish wanna be heros signed up thinking they were defending our country. They bought the big lie. Every war in the 20th century was a banker war designed for theft of resources, control of countries, installment of rothschild banks, population control, genocide, ritualistic sacrifice, war machine profits, division of people, experiments in mind control, etc. They made it so you sign away your rights when you join and use you as they wish in all manner of experimental medical and mind control objectives. Despite all this, many still signed up in droves for wars the television told them was for our protection. Waving the flag and pointing the finger at whoever they deemed the enemy to be. Ever notice the axis of evil countries are the ones that DON’T HAVE A ROTHSCHILD CENTRAL BANK? Not one of the countries we attacked and murdered millions of people and occupied and took over were any threat to us in any considerable way! Many people are growing a brain cell and realizing 911 was total bullshit false flag designed to pass draconian legislation and jump start the NWO. Sadly many refude to even look into such things as it would shatter theyre illusion that they did the right thing and weren’t totally duped. Hienz Kissinger even said it to theyre faces! “soldiers are just dumb stupid animals that are used as pawns in foriegn policy” QUOTE! High on testosterone and low on critical thinking ability they marched to the pipers tune. There is only one true law and that is the law of nature, do unto others as you have them do unto you “what comes around, goes around”. The law of Karma is eternal. Put the shoe on the other foot, what would you do if you were some poor brown perason in your small country and here comes the amerikans to blow the fuckin shit out of your world! Oh but if you resist your an insurgent! WTF? So what that means is that if we defend our country WE ARE INSURGENTS TOO! Like I said what comes around goes around so when it happens to you just look in the mirror and ask yourself why. If you want a form of redemption then go and educate others to what and who controls the military complex and do all you can to keep them from joining and fighting for our enslavement. Those vets that are home will most likely get the chance to use the training they recieved to actually fight for OUR COUNTRY! Not the enrichment of the planets masters! The redemption draweth swiftly! Choose your side… 🙂

          • Genius:

            What a marvelously written post. 1000+ thumbs up!

            • Thanks Granny, I hope many others think so as well 🙂

              • Genius *1

                • +1 I mean Genius…very well written post.

                • Genius—>

                  Great post, sir!

                  Mega up-thumbs to ya.

              • Rather than giving you thousands + thumbs up, I would like to give 1,000,000 middle fingers to those who gives you thumbs down.

                • Stolz..or perhaps 6,000,000 middle fingers? IF you know what I mean.

                  • I hate fake numbers BPD……Make it 7,000,000, and I am in.

                    Darn STOP , let’s reduce it since new claims my surface for additional forced ransom payment.

                  • Stolz..LOL I’m with you

                  • Badpup, don’t be baggin on Germans, Im German 🙂 Germans are the best in the EU! In fact Germans have invented an incredible amount of important things 🙂 In fact I would say Germany leads the world in quality and innovation. Was is Los Mien Hier?

              • Doesn’t call himself Genius for nothing. KUDOS!! To another awoken American Patriot that seeks the TRUTH and not Propaganda BS from the MICM – Military Industrial Complex. MAFIA!!

            • Of course the world is a Stage – Obama Today Requests from Congress $5 Billion more to fight ISIS.

              Then I read this: General Petraeus Accused of Founding ISIS/ISIL ….SO LIKE WTF??…

              Western special services might be behind ISIS terrorists – Intel veteran
              “There are some grounds to suspect that American and British special services could support the Islamic extremists in order to target the territorial integrity of the Russian Federation,” Lieutenant-General Nikolai Pushkaryov, formerly of the Central Intelligence Directorate of the Russian General Staff said in an interview with the RIA-Novosti news agency. “The top of these movements can be under the influence of NATO agents,” he added.
              Source: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/11/06/general-petraeus-accused-of-founding-isisisil/

              • Genius…um… guess you haven’t read many of my posts lately. I’m as German as a German can get brother…I’m not sure what post I made in this thread that seemed like I was mocking the great Aryan Germanic race you must have misunderstood something my brother. :>)

                • HA HA HA, you must be a german shepard lol. We have one of those 🙂 I would never mock a brother german! Damn man we might get a brotherhood goin here lol. Seriously though, Germany ROCKS!

                  • :>) bark bark

                  • What says “Mark Mark…..Mark Mark!!!” ?? Answer. A dog with a hairlip.

          • AAAH, the red thumbs already? Care to prove me wrong? Does the truth hurt you little feelers? Reality a bit painful? I certainly hope so for your sake! Maybe now you will learn to think and break out of the bullshit bubble you live in..
            “In times of deciet, the truth is a dangerous thing”
            “unknown”

            • Genius – don’t let the red thumbers get you down. Most of them are low-life morons.

              • Unless of course it is you red thumbing some one elses post that you don’t agree with….then that’s ok huh, even if it gets “hidden due to low rating.”

                • BJ:

                  I don’t see why you are so disgruntled when a post gets covered up because of red thumbs.

                  I can’t speak for other posters here, but my curiosity about what the poster had to say gets me every time. I have to open it…….

                  • LoL

                    I just think it is wrong and it has been getting increasingly worse lately

              • yup

                “low information voters”

                EVERYWHERE

          • It is comforting to know that the people responsible for all this misery will be cast into the lake of fire and silenced forever.

          • It’s heartbreaking what that Lib Obola has done to this country and to the military. It’s so nauseating to learn that taxpayer dollars are being used help ISIS chop people’s heads off.

            Obola has liberalized/feminized/homosexualised the military. The Joint Chiefs of Staff have compromised the military for the sake of their careers and pensions by playing the liberal kiss-azz political career ladder game. They’ll sell out the rank-and-file.

            The Secretary of Defense is also Obola compromised.

            This country has been DEMned by Satan.

            Happy Veteran’s Day.

            P.S. I’m a vet too.

          • Happy Veteran’s Day, Y’all!

            Somebody went crazy with the red thumbs on the previous posts. Incredible! It looks like they are going to swarm this post as well.

            Celebrating Veteran’s Day high atop a “Bald Cyprus” deep in the Atchafalaya, Louisiana Eagle

          • Genius, excellent post, best description of the Vietnam debacle I’ve ever seen.

            • Braveheart, The stories I hear from those who will tell are fuckin horrifying! I can’t even imagine the shit they saw. Depending on theyre level of involvement I see the scars that war left on my friends. All for what? I was too young to be involved in it at the time but I saw it on TV and relatives that were in it that visited. I had a step uncle I remember as clear as day on leave flashing money around and bragging how many gooks he killed and was signing on for another tour. Photos of peoples heads in each hand and the ol M-16 shouldered. What a fucked up period in our history. A perfect example of the evil men do (on both sides). One of the men I worked with was a helicopter gunner (short life expectancy) and made it. He had the worst stories that would make you puke! All out murder no holds barred! He had a burden that haunted him till he died. This god damned govt. has to go! And the masters that control it!
              Die on your feet or live on your knees!

              • “Photos of peoples heads in each hand and the ol M-16 shouldered. What a fucked up period in our history”

                Let’s connect some dots:

                Kissinger was if not the main architects….> Heads in each hand
                Zionists the main architects of the ISIS…..> Heads in each hand

                Conclusion: Crime against humanity is a tribal culture and dark souls

              • I had a POS AHole Uncle that was a career AF Major that claimed to have flown 700+ sorties in Nam. A real psychopath POS. I bet he killed 10s of Thousands of women, children and villagers with bombs amd Napalm from his comfi cockpit. If there is a Hell he is there.

          • Hey Genius
            I’m a vet and I’m not happy. Every once in awhile I get someone saying thanks for your service. I reply for what, being part of the corporate illegal killing machine. needless to say “open jaw”.
            I have ribbons and metals but only one I wear around my neck, A Humanitarian metal for saving lives, not taking them. TEARS

            • vtfree2, YOU are the true humanitarian hero! YOU save lives even though you know theyre politics or ignorance! My hat is off to you on this day for you are oblivious to why but do the job of saving and not destroying. Your ribbons are earned! From my heart I say “Thank You” Please pass the message of the word NO to military bullshit wars and that being a pawn in the NWO isn’t heroic. Thank You!

          • You win the Internets for today in the category of creative quasi-religious demonic bullshit.

            How does this feral Obamanista get 29 green thumbs in four hours?

            • Who are you calling a feral obamanista?

          • Good Article- You don’t protect my freedom: Our childish insistence on calling soldiers heroes deadens real democracy
            It’s been 70 years since we fought a war about freedom. Forced troop worship and compulsory patriotism must end.

            http://www.salon.com/2014/11/09/you_dont_protect_my_freedom_our_childish_insistence_on_calling_soldiers_heroes_deadens_real_democracy/

            Part of the Article:
            No American freedom is currently at stake in Afghanistan. It is impossible to imagine an argument to the contrary, just as the war in Iraq was clearly fought for the interests of empire, the profits of defense contractors, and the edification of neoconservative theorists. It had nothing to do with the safety or freedom of the American people. The last time the U.S. military deployed to fight for the protection of American life was in World War II – an inconvenient fact that reduces clichés about “thanking a soldier” for free speech to rubble. If a soldier deserves gratitude, so does the litigator who argued key First Amendment cases in court, the legislators who voted for the protection of free speech, and thousands of external agitators who rallied for more speech rights, less censorship and broader access to media.

            Wars that are not heroic have no real heroes, except for the people who oppose those wars. Far from being the heroes of recent wars, American troops are among their victims. No rational person can blame the soldier, the Marine, the airman, or the Navy man for the stupid and destructive foreign policy of the U.S. government, but calling them “heroes,” and settling for nothing less, makes honest and critical conversations about American foreign policy less likely to happen. If all troops are heroes, it doesn’t make much sense to call their mission unnecessary and unjust. It also makes conversations about the sexual assault epidemic, or the killing of innocent civilians, impossible. If all troops are heroes, it doesn’t make any sense to acknowledge that some are rapists and sadists.

            The same principle of clear-eyed scrutiny applies to law enforcement agencies. Police departments everywhere need extensive investigation of their training methods, qualifications for getting on the job, and psychological evaluation. None of that will happen as long as the culture calls cops heroes, regardless of their behavior.

            An understandable reason for calling all troops heroes, even on the left, is to honor the sacrifice they make after they die or endure a life-altering injury in one of America’s foolish acts of aggression. A more helpful and productive act of citizenship, and sign of solidarity with the military, is the enlistment in an antiwar movement that would prevent the government from using its volunteer Army as a plaything for the financial advancement and political cover of the state-corporate nexus and the military-industrial complex of Dwight Eishenhower’s nightmares.

        • Would someone please kindly detonate a non-strategic, tactical thermonuclear device in Tel Aviv and bring the potential for peace, once and for all, to the Middle East. And while you/they are at it, it might also help to drop one on the City of London, D.C. and the Vatican.

          Oh, and NY City, too.

          All, just for starters.

          • EA, I get your point!

          • how about we drop one on your house/ hut
            ???

            asswipe

            skittle shittin unicorn

          • @European American….

            Well….looks like you and the Islamo-fascists have similar dreams.

            Aren’t you proud to know that you have so much in common with the same people who blow up innocents?

        • Glad to see SHTF PLAN is wakin up. It would seem that the real
          enemies of America lie in DC and a few other spots!

          • SHTFPlan is suffering a “flood the zone” attack, probably funded by Riyadh.

            Mac, this is going to kill your click counts if it keeps up.
            Your site will wither; these people are a minute, if highly vocal minority, and can’t keep your cash flow up all by themselves.

            • Yup, lots of anti-american, anti-military here now. Total PsyOps going on.

              Instead of changing America, they want to blame the “masters” in Israel, get you to not join the military, become anti-american, etc; in other words, weaken us from within.

              They employ communication 101 theory. Say one popular thing at first, then switch it around at the end of the post to what they want one to believe.

              We as a country may have our faults, but it is our country, and it is up to us to change it so as to avoid SHTF. We ain’t Shiite or Sunni. We are American.

              • No you are not! You are neocon trolls who want to get America destroyed!

                • @Frank

                  NeoCon????? Uh oh, someone sounds like a political troll.

        • badpuppy—>

          Thanks for the data / info!

          ..awesome post!

          • Hunter…my pleasure brother.

        • * meeting *

        • Obummer (the secret govt) was determined to bomb Syria one way or the other… this (ISIS scare) was what it was about all along– I NEVER believed the bs put out by the presstitute media about ISIS all along.

      2. The tribal parasites / Mossad were the designers, Saudi desert pigs are the financier and paid ZOG CIA is the operator. The head of ISIS is a Jew. If you doubt it then consider yourself a useful idiot.

        • The current goal of ISIS is to eliminate the Assad regime in Syria. THEY are well supplied with intel, monetary assets, and the latest in USA made armaments.

          This little “piss-ant” rag-tag force could be taken out in days…if that were the goal of THEIR many benefactors.

          That ISN’T THE GOAL. So, time to think and ponder outside of the BOX! ISIS IS US, ISRAHELL, SAUDIS, AND who knows what other NWO entities are actually involved.

          Once these useful idiots have accomplished THEIR assigned mission, THEY WILL BE ELIMINATED. And some “dip-shit” will be claiming the glory for having DEFEATED THOSE WE SUPPORTED! A truly sick and treasonous joke!

      3. our foreign policy has made a huge mess of things
        in Afghanistan,Iraq,Syria and Libya

        personally speaking
        I think it is all very DELIBERATE

        we don’t want peace in these areas

        • The US supplies 78% of the worlds arms. It’s big business. When times are tough, we can sell/give to both sides. It’s basic economics. We control both the supply and the demand.

          • And the US Govnt supplies these countries with foreign aid and loan gurantees that Include the buying American made weapons, with that money provided by the Bankers. Its all about spreading hate murder genocide and misery across the planet. BTW/ John Kerry is a POS lying scumbag I would like to slap him silly. Along with that other smirky John McCain the Senile Penile.

        • Satori—>

          …and what about our domestic policy?

          ..a mirror image, perhaps?

          ——————

          Methinks, the weaponry utilized ‘in country’ on US terra-firma, are laws / E.O.s & 24/7/365 agitprop…

          ..I wonder how long it’ll take them…to resort to domestic drone strikes?

      4. way off topic

        but a really good movie to see is FURY

        its about a WW2 tank crew
        kinda reminded me of Stalingrad or Das Boot

        in my opinion,it may prove to be a modern day classic

        • Fuck neosocialist “I’m so hot” Brad Pitt, mouthpiece puppet for the Zionist Tribe, and his narcissistic and demonic bitch wife.

          • hmm
            so ya won’t go see a perfectly good movie
            cause ya disagree with the politics of one of the actors ???

            yeah that makes sense

            yet your using a computer probably made in COMMIE China ???
            and how about your cell phone,your vehicle in whole or at least in part
            or even your freakin’ toaster ???

            gotta commend yer CriTIcaL ThImKIn sKiLs

            I went out to eat tonight
            good thing I thoroughly questioned the owner of the restaurant
            to make sure he was politically correct
            God knows I wouldn’t have wanted to eat some liberal meat loaf or something !!!

            • Good one,
              That gave me a good chuckle.
              EVERYONE can have opinions and such
              Just think of all the good people and experiences people miss out on because of a narrow minded attitude and outlook.

              • yeah

                I ate a “liberal” pizza once

                uurrppp

                damn thing is still repeatin’ on me !

                • Its funny to read all the comments on certain threads,
                  Moderates,
                  Compromise,
                  Giving others the benefit of the doubt
                  A good actor or actress and a good movie are just that
                  I seriously doubt religious affiliation, race, philosophical outlook or political lean are even a part of the process or thought when they are writing, scripting and filming a movie,
                  Sometimes entertainment is just that, entertainment.
                  We are ALL entitled to our opinions and outlooks or followings,
                  Mutual respect, sorely lacking in todays rude society.
                  Theres a good read over at American Thinker
                  .americanthinker.com/articles/2014/10/race_and_reaction.html
                  Add the appropriate prefix
                  But a very identifiable piece,
                  ALL the things MOST of us who grew up in the 60s and 70s were taught have been thrown out the window, and now what do we see?
                  NOBODY knows how to work together,
                  We are accused of being racist by people who are guilty of being racist against us but because of our color we are somehow in the wrong, we are forced to accept all manner of BS from every level of government and from all manner of organizations all of which could care less what our true thoughts are on any of what we are accused of or force fed.
                  It seems that everything is upside down,
                  For me one of the most troubling aspects has to be the loss of liberty and the way we are vilified if we speak out about our rights.
                  For me this is non-negotiable and will be fought to the death if need be.
                  Lots for all to ponder these days,
                  NOMFI

              • Like who TF goes out for dinner to eat Meatloaf?? Seriously? Conservative meatloaf at that.

                • hey
                  don’t be knockin’ meat loaf !

                  some of us are from the south, tried and true

                  my favorite restaurants are the local mom and pop “greasy spoons”

                  home made everything,meat loaf included with collards,okra
                  and hot corn bread covered with melted butter and honey

                  can’t beat a traditional southern meal for nothin’ !!!

            • Hey Satori, if you can’t handle some indirect feedback regarding your original statement of “off topic” and “a really good movie”, then why did you post it? What did you expect, everyone to say, “Hey, Satori (that great movie reviewer) said Fury is a really good movie” I should go see it? (did you text the same suggestion to your social networking support group and they all went?)

              If Pitt makes you cream in your pants, well, those are your pants, no stain on me. If scripts that attack “Nazi’s”, ad nauseam, also get you “excited”, hey, feel free. If screenplays that seem realistic at one moment and totally farfetched and self serving a certain agenda the next, don’t annoy you, then keep living in you make-believe, picture postcard world, while you still can.

              They’ve got mindless entertainment down to a science. I’m sure they not only appreciated your fiat dollars at the door, supporting their “programs”, but the fact that you opened your mind (submitted) to their SSSS during the show, well, that was the icing on the cake for them.

              I’m not sure what to think of your other prattle….what are you really trying to express? …they control you and there’s nothing you can do about it, so you just don’t care, enjoy, live for the moment? If so, don’t feel alone, there’s a whole generation (just like in the movie theater cheering for the good guys) submerged in that same, delusional mindset.

              • oh Euro your so right

                all those red thumbs really upset me

                matter of fact

                I cried myself to sleep

                NOT

                feel free to criticize any and all of my posts

                but I do admit
                I find this “If Pitt makes you cream in your pants” highly disturbing !!!

                where the hell did that come from ???

                oh wait

                don’t answer that

          • European..i’m with you there…I’ve been boycotting hollywood for a while now…they have gotten my last dime. I’m sick of them lying constantly in film after film with their Kosher versions of WW2.

        • “Fury” was a great, great movie! The ensemble acting was incredible.

          • I refuse to give Hollywood one red cent…..

          • At least Hitler had the Balls to stand up to the NWO and fry the Tribe. Winston Churchill was a Shill. Look that up. Amazing the BS they spoon fed us in High School propaganda History class. Putin today is also fighting the NWO tribe and why he too is demonized in the Tribe’s MSM Press. Connect the dots folks.

            • Prime Minister Winston Churchill Was Jewish By Birth. Churchill’s mother was Jewish, Winston Churchill was the spoiled son of an aristocratic father and an American mother who doted on him. As a young man he was a dilettante who developed an early taste for expensive clothes, imported cigars and old brandy.
              At 26 he entered parliament.

              In the company of members of the English aristocracy and establishment Winston’s ‘night on the town’ often ended at fringe homosexual private shows in which every depravity known to man was indulged.

              Jenny Jacobson
              Churchill’s mother was Jenny Jerome. Her father was involved in theater investment and changed his name from Jacobson to Jerome.

              ‘Cunning, no doubt, came to Churchill in the Jewish genes transmitted by his mother Lady Randolph Churchill , née Jenny Jacobson/Jerome.’ Moshe Kohn, Jerusalem Post

              In England at the beginning of the 1900s commenting that there were very few English aristocrat families left that hadn’t intermarried with aspiring Jews. It was said that, when they visited the Continent, Europeans were surprised to see Jewish looking persons with English titles and accents. http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-leaders-churchill-jewish-mother.html

              Jewish looking? Look for the big hook nose and Rat looking face, short in stature, and usually named Morty, or Beatrice, and last names ending in Silver, Gold, Fein, Stein, Kline, Berg, Bloom, Shiller or Stiller.

              Even the Mob Killer of Oswald changed his name to Jack Ruby from Jack Rubenstine. To Mask their Jew Rat Evil Ways like Churchill. Study History for the real Facts, not this Propaganda Crap they teach you in Public Schools.

              • WWTI:

                Remember Old Coach calling “absurd” the post that stated Churchill was jewish. Just a few clicks on the internet would have shown the post was not absurd.

                Just claiming the 20 books you have read on American history makes you an authority does not hold water. Depends on the ‘bent’ of the authors of those books.

                I read posters links and hope a lot of you do the same. Don’t let anyone discourage you from that. We can go there and then decide for ourselves through thorough research whether these links are believable. Just a short blip, downplaying a link should give you a heads up that it is probably worth reading.

                • His Mom was an American of Jewish descent.

            • WWTI….Bingo

        • Hollywood supports and promotes White Genocide.

          • Notice all the MSM TV commercials that make White people look stupid and Blacks look like they are smart. Like the Black janitor wanders into a Corporated board meeting and comes up with a technological solutuon to fix a complex problem like shipping packages that has the Corp Board stumped. Its all about keeping the racial hate going.

            • WWTI, Can you imagine the outcry if the roles were reversed? A white janitor walks into a room full of stumped chimps and thinks up a solution to their issue. That would be labeled racist. I’m getting so tired of the fucking double-standard. Blacks can have their UNCF and NAACP, and BET channel, and JET magazine, etc. But if whites were to try having their version, S will HTF.

            • WWTI..I have noticed all that myself…but once you turn off the talmud-vision ( television ) and go outside say to the store…a different picture of who blacks really are seems to emerge.

            • The real kicker is “they” have the audacity to call the mulatto a black.

        • Satori ,
          I believe that story is based on a true incident in the last months of WW2 , I read the story a long time ago in high school it was call the crossroad . The valor exhibited was extraordinary, the same story is as old as the ages , ordinary men , in extrodinary situations exhibiting uncommon valor.
          This is what should be remembered today , we are sent not by choice to fight in foreign lands , to give that last full measure for some by a government that is represented by the people of this nation , if you want to blame anyone it is all our fault for not speaking out in mass against what our representatives propose. In the end it lies in the American people . Some of us enlisted thinking we could make a difference in this rotten world , leave it a better place than when we entered it.

          We can bitch and complain all we want it will solve nothing , what we have to due is clean up our own part of the world first and LIVE BY THE PRINCIPLES OF WHAT IS RIGHT , NOT BY WHAT IS WRONG OR TRENDY at the moment . In life nothing is easly , the things that have the most meaning are hard , difficult and sometimes paided for with lives and blood. That unfortunately is the nature of the world and it will not change EVER . IT’S UP TO US AS INDIVIDUALS TO STAND UP , SPEAK OUT AND ACT , if we do not we might as well through away the key to liberty and except our fate.

          So much for my musing this somber overcast morning as I ride the train into DC to make my biannual pilgrimage to the mall and Arlington National Cemetery. In my 56 years on this earth I have learned one thing , change starts within each of us , use it for the benefit of the society you live in , change the world ( and minds ) one person at a time .

          Today I remember my fellow “Brothers in Arms ” who served with distinction and Valor and those that live only in our memories gone but never forgotten.

          IN MEMORY
          The men of OP4 1st Marine Division 3 Recon Battalion , LAV-25 Green 4
          Kafji , Saudi Arabia
          January 29 , 1991

          Semper Fi 0317/ 8541
          USMC 1977-1993

      5. The trouble is that the Ellis Island immigrants overthrew the Mayflower immigrants around the turn of the 20th century. The Bolsheviks should have been given a return ticket back east.

        Gotta go…there’s a “factual” WWII documentary coming on the History Channel.

        • Those immigrants controlled nothing and were industrial cannon fodder. The indigenous Rockefeller and foreign Rothchild / Warburg money interests grabbed the power.

          • thank you Kev
            nice to see someone around here has actually read a little history !

            • Agreed Sat. we have many like Kev. I call them the silent majority until the right time to start their roar.

              • Two plus decades back I read, Best Evidence by David Lifton. That opened my eyes to there is some power above the government were told that supposedly runs things. The natural progression led me to, “The Creature From Jekyll Island”. There is too many to list in the interim but the latest was, “Trading With The Enemy”.

                Its all here in plain site. All one needs to do is put down the hobbies for a bit and read. With the internet its so easy. Back in the mid 80s info was far more difficult to find.

                There is no excuse for the public at large to be as ignorant as they are. The worst are those that intentionally ignore facts because it conflicts with their beliefs. Sad.

                • Opps Sight not site……..too much internet

                  • Evidenty they made a military channel documentary
                    Unknown to me , it was startling to hear my voice on recorded radio transmissions .

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-VlHanOScQ

                    Semper Fi 8541

          • The Bolsheviks controlled nothing? The Bolsheviks WERE financed by the likes of Jacob Schiff and other Wall Street bankers.

            Am I missing your point or are you missing mine?

            Link to follow…

            • TPTB

              “The Powers That Be” have a core. At that core are the three gentlemen I mentioned.

              The goal is fascism at the top and communism to control the masses. Your watching communism advance but at the top its some bastardized fascism / corporatism that has the power. Governments do their bidding not the other way around.

              Are we on the same page?

            • JRS:

              The Bolsheviks destruction of Russia was financed by the Bolshevik bankers in NY.

              • Granny GOLDMAN SACS of NY to be more precise funded the Bolshevik’s.

        • The Pilgrims were Puritans. Oliver Cromwell was a Puritan.He let a group of folks back into England because they financed his cause.
          Edward Longshanks kicked those folks out several hundred years earlier. Who were those people who financed the overthrow of the British Monarchy and put their folks into power and set up the Bank of England and the City of London?

          • WOW! Just Wow! You’ve never even opened a comic book, have you.

            Puritans didn’t even EXIST until 250 years after Edward Longshanks was in his grave.

            The overthrow of Charles I came about because he was acting just like Obama is today – demanding that his royal authority should supercede Parliament. The people who overthrew him were English landowners and nobility.

            Bank of England was formed in 1694, fifty years after Cromwell was dead.

            If you are unable to afford a book, here’s the BoE history page from Wikipedia:
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banking_in_the_United_Kingdom

            The Rothschilds and Barings were not even IN England until the last half of the 18th century, almost a hundred years after the BoE was formed.

            /rant

      6. Hmmmmm he says….

        All I want for Christmas is my S-300!!!

        • Had an Army Colonial tell me Tommy Franks F-up bigtime and got a lot of his men killed. Meaning disarming the Iraqi Army and the country blew up into mass Chaos after the few day invasion with out a game plan to stabilize the country after the fall of Saddam.

      7. Seen the pix of McCain with the future ISIS leaders..

        The whole state dept and covert opps is absurd..but defining at best..

        These are the same mofos who are destabilizing us as we speak..and the rest of the so called free world..

        The central planners and their masters..the central banks..

        Nothing new here..

        Been going on for many a century..

        possee

        • Honestly, I think McVain has been senile for a number of years. That combined with his monumental ego (seciond only to Obama’s) makes for a dangerous animal.

        • McCain deserves a firing Squad along with John Kerry. Both are traitor to our freedom.

      8. Reading some of these posts is like a redux of Mein Kampf.

        • Walt K….do you see the daily struggle of mankind in the US and all over the planet caused purposely by selected few mainly in the Financial district of London and NYC?

          “My Struggle” is referring to such suffering.

          • @Stolz Vorfahren….

            Thanks for confirming my thoughts.

            I guess I’ve just listened to too many WWII vets who witnessed the horrors of the deathcamps to buy into the Jew haters revisionist BS.

            • Walt, maybe they were the ancestor of the current reporters at Fox, CNN, MSNBC etc.. . They really are good at reversing the truth.

        • Ain’t it, though?

          I just read a report that suggests that a certain virus can actually make people stupid. Looks like we have yet another viral epidemic on our hands.

          • The Old Coach…so how long have you had this virus and do you know if a cure is available ?

        • Some of you folks are insane with all this jew hating non sense. Then you wonder when you speak about the need to be prepared people you look at you like you nuckin futs. The isreali state has nothing to do with our current issues. If you were surrounded by people who hated you at every turn you would be the same way.

          • Medic719: “Some of you folks are insane with all this jew hating non sense.

            Quite true. Jesus is/was Jewish. Do these folks hate Jesus too? The Apostles were Jewish. Do these folks hate the Apostles too?

            • Jesus was an ISRAELITE not a JEW open up a bible and read my friend.

              • @badpuppydog….

                That’s one of the most ignorant statements I’ve ever seen.

                • Walt..more ignorant than these posts?…

                  “Reading some of these posts is like a redux of Mein Kampf.” Walt 2014

                  “I guess I’ve just listened to too many WWII vets who witnessed the horrors of the deathcamps to buy into the Jew haters revisionist BS.” Walt 2014

                  • You and Hitler agree on just about everything.

                    And I’ll take the word of returning WWII vets over the revisionist BS you spew any day.

                    I misstated however about posts like yours being ignorant. They aren’t ignorant…they are bold faced lies and reflect the depraved logic of an intellectual and moral moron.

                    • Walt..whatever you do don’t go to justiceforgermans.com and learn the truth.

          • Medic719, Have you ever thought of the cause of hate as you stated against your tribe? I don’t call it hate rather the humanity is at the cross road of saving itself from the dark side of your tribe.

            • Stolz,
              First and foremost, I am an Irish American Catholic from Texas. I dont know what the hell you are talking about regarding dark side of the tribe. You sound like you live in a comic book. Get out of the basement, meet some people, read a book. There are so many other things that you can do than just connect imaginary dots and blame the jews for all the world problems. The issue with the world is it is the same that it has always been. I prep do to the fact that it is smart to hedge for any event that may happen. Not for the great Zionist boogie man that may come in your room and touch your pp. On another point, following the works of Hitler is not a good survival strategy. Hes dead! Kinda goes against the grain of this whole prepper thing huh peaches.
              Medic
              (vetran, father, husband, and awesome)

      9. Don’t worry, chickenshit Jew-hating liberals – Israel will take out ISIS because your god Obama is too inept.
        As America declines (due to your liberalism), Israel rises!

        • Macro:

          Yep, Israel rises with our tax dollars you flipping idiot. Go troll on CNBC. You will be welcome there.

          • PGram
            Israhell only has little girls in their military and we buy all their to to’s

            Thumbs down now!

        • Obama was hired by AIPAC to “look” inept; and he is doing a bang up job of it. Damned un-American puppet is what HE IS.

          Sorry to educate you but people who have wised up to the Jews are not liberals. Liberal progressives are the ones who hatched Obama.

        • The Israeli’s are actually treating the wounded of some of these terrorist groups in their hospitals. It’s been reported more than once from varying sources. If they are patchin em up they sure wont take em out. Trolling maybe?

          • Frank, for those red thumpers in Tel Aviv, I add a link so they can see their tribal member with his Six Sided Star treating one of those be beheading animals.

            As an FYI…perhaps many of the readers may not know that beheading actually was initiated and performed by the tribe throughout history.

            http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCoQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonsblog.com%2F2014%2F09%2Fturkey-israel-directly-supporting-isis-al-qaeda-syria.html&ei=doNhVJrNAYKmNteJgtAM&usg=AFQjCNGxHspbvhU5mZXIGMpqG2e_kzRPzg&bvm=bv.79189006,d.eXY

            • Washington’s Blog as a source? Oh, please.

              • Seems all of us here are searching for answers to what is wrong with America.

                Many posters are dismayed by the current administration and where things seem to be headed. However, when a link like the one put up by Stolz is given there is always someone who seems to downplay its importance.

                All posters are asking for “proof” of who controls our American government and its policies, who controls American finance, who controls Americas military. Who? Who? Who?

                Some posters here seem dismayed with the direction the government is going, but they don’t seem to be able to “see the forest for the trees”. Some don’t want you to see the “forest for the trees”.

                Whatever the motive is to downplay a great link, I cannot discern, however please don’t let anyone discourage you from looking at Stolz’ link.

              • Sorry, Old Coach….I tried Jerusalem Post but didn’t see any article. My apologies again.

            • The Israehell Zogs just banned political parties in part of Palestine. Like WTF is That. Wake up America if we let this go on much longer that same ZOG Zionist Occupational Government will be pulling that crap here in America. America will look like Palestine does today.

              • Link to above post: Israel moves to outlaw Palestinian political parties in the Knesset
                http://www.jonathan-cook.net/2014-11-05/israel-moves-to-outlaw-palestinian-political-parties-in-the-knesset/

                Silencing all political dissent
                The initiatives against Zoabi are the most visible aspects of a wider campaign to silence all political dissent from the Palestinian minority.
                Last week, Lieberman instructed one of his members of Knesset, Alex Miller, to initiate a bill that would outlaw Salah’s Islamic Movement.
                The legislation appears to be designed to hold Netanyahu to his word from late May. Then, the Israeli media revealed that the prime minister had created a ministerial team to consider ways to ban the movement.
                At the same time, the Israeli security services claimed that Salah’s faction was cooperating closely with Hamas in Jerusalem.
                After Israel barred the Palestinian Authority from having any presence in Jerusalem more than a decade ago and expelled Hamas legislators from the city, Salah has become the face of Palestinian political activism in Jerusalem.
                Under the campaign slogan “al-Aqsa is in danger,” he has taken a leading role in warning that Israel is incrementally taking control of the most sensitive holy site in the conflict.
                Last month it emerged that the Knesset is to vote on legislation to give Jewish religious extremists greater access to the mosque compound. Already large numbers of Jews, many of them settlers, regularly venture on to esplanade backed by armed Israeli police.
                They include Jewish extremists that expressly want to blow up the al-Aqsa mosque so that a replica of a Jewish temple from 2,000 years ago can be built in its place.

      10. What time is in Tel Aviv now? They must get paid very well with our tax dollar to have a 24×7 red thumb support team so active.

        • Stolz I think i might be at the top of their shitlist as of late…Go look back at the last few threads and see if you haven’t already. LOL

      11. off topic but does any one know any thing about DJX Put Options like out around dec 2015 im thinking the dow will crash or drop to around 13,000 or less so how does this work???

        • God..If an unusual amount of put options are being taken out on wall street thats a HUGE RED FLAG. That means the big money is betting the market is about to tank. I got out of the market a good while back. It’s nothing more than insider trading for the most part now anyway.

          • An excessively large number of short contracts in financial derivatives and longs on commodities would be a pretty good indicator, exactly like the 2007 oil run up.

          • badpuppydog, I day traded from 1984 to 1996 and the model that worked really well up to that point just stopped working. I shorted the October 1987 market and did good, but I should have had faith in my model and gone all in. Oh well. Also the model showed to go short in 2000, but the only thing I did was buy Red Hat when it IPO ed. By 2001, I was mostly in real estate and now I only have about 10% in the market (GE, MCD, IBM, RHT, LUV and GLD)

            the whole idea of examining derivative short and long contract volume is intriguing. I may have to create a model and share it here.

            • Tex, GLD is a great bet, it’s backed by real gold! HA HA HA HA, Do you have any critical thinking skills? Leased gold is counted on the books as possessed gold lol 😛

              • Genius, short term GLD is cheaper than physical and it represents a very minor part of the portfolio. I’m just borrowing movement.

              • PHYS out of Canada is inventoried by law and not allowed to sell more shares than there is gold while GLD is legally leveraged. Could PHYS not have the gold stated? Possibly. GLD can (and does) have less gold then shares sold and its legal.

                What to do if you have considerable assets? We’re talking far beyond bean, bullet and bandages money; say a half to a million?

            • Tex..I’d love to see that model if you choose to post it.

        • What would cause the next crash and when? Near-term potential catalysts for a new stock market crash would include:

          A drop in oil to the $50s or lower – Just another $20 drop in oil would cause tremendous pain in the entire energy sector and would quickly spread to the financial sector levered to higher prices.
          A spike in gold to $2,000 an ounce – A spike in gold prices would cause major pain for the Treasury, Fed and too-big-to-fail banks who have a lot bet on gold not spiking anytime soon. The financial sector would be forced them to scramble to cover the derivatives and to meet the paper promised demand for physical gold.
          Food prices and inflation take off – Deflation is a silly concept when applied to food and clothes for the vast majority of Americans. Beef, chicken, vegetable, candy, coffee prices, and so on, are all up big at the grocery store. There’s no way that Burger King can be making profits on selling 10 pieces of chicken nuggets (0.4 pounds) for $1.49 when the Bureau of Labor itself says that the same kind of boneless chicken that’s supposedly going into those BK nuggets would cost you $3.50 per pound to buy raw at the grocery store. That’d be $1.40 for the 175 grams of chicken you’d use to make your own home made nuggets. Food inflation is concerning because it’s driving the fast-food joints and major food suppliers to substitute ever cheaper ingredients. Healthy food is expensive unless you grew it yourself. Anyway, food inflation should be on your radar right now, especially since it’s so quickly dismissed as a concern by the same pundits, bureaucrats and reporters who dismissed real estate’s coming crash before 2008 happened.
          Currency wars – Seems that the governments around the developed world have decided that a valuable currency is the last thing they want. For those of us who work for a living and are paid in dollars, we’d prefer those dollars always be as valuable as possible. But giant corporations who depend on exports and giant banks who get to borrow free taxpayer dollars at 0% and gamble them in the markets, make more money when the currency loses value. With governments around the world being funded by corporations and giant banks, you can expect more currency trashing around the world. The dollar might win versus the euro and the yen and the yuan, but that doesn’t mean those currency wars aren’t sapping real prosperity and savings. And currency wars create dislocations and unsustainable cycles that then catalyze real crashes in markets and economies.

          • What is up with the red thumb on Medic’s post?

            I believe his post is full of truths, correct me if I am wrong.

            • I need to qualify my question. I am not talking about ALL Medics posts, just this particular one.

      12. I just gave everyone here a round of green thumbs. someone has to give these turds, I mean, trolls some competition…OW…OUCH…BAD KEYBOARD [SARCASM]

        • God bless you brother braveheart.

        • Braveheart:

          With some posters here asking Mac to censor posts they find unacceptable; they are as guilty as the redthumbers.

          I find some of their posts unacceptable, but am not asking Mac to ban them from this site. Agree with me or not, free speech runs both ways.

          • The problem is, they are starting to overrun the site.

            If I were a newcomer here, I would have the impression that this is a Neo-Nazi site, based simply on the comments to the articles.

            It does not seem to matter what the topic is about. Before long you can count on the usual suspects to start spewing their Jew hating rhetoric. And history has shown us that if this kind of “free speech” remains unchallenged, people die in the millions. While they have the “right” to say what they want, they do NOT have the right to be heard.

            I had uncles who sacrificed years in the prime of their lives to rid the world of the likes of vermin like Hitler and Goebbels. And now we see them resurrected here.

            Sorry…but I just don’t want this site to be a refuge for Nazis, white supremacists and haters like them. Those of us in the prepper community have enough problem as it is with people thinking we are nuts and extremists. Tolerating the posts of racists does not help.

            On this Veterans Day, I find it particularly repugnant that we have to listen to the rantings of people who sympathize with the very people responsible for the premature deaths of hundreds of thousands of our finest young men during WWII. They gave their lives to rid us of such evil. And yet it remains. Sad indeed.

            • Walt:

              When I see a post from you condemning the Bolshevik Jews in Russia who murdered MORE people than a supposed 6,000,000 and why there was never a trial for that murdering tribe of people, and no reparations for those families tortured or slaughtered, then I will begin to believe you care about truth.

              So, Walt, do you believe it is Nazi’s who are leading the charge for the NWO? I give a damn that people recognize who is destroying this nation.

              You read Gruesome Harvest, Walt. It just might change the way you see the world.

              You see anything, ANYTHING, anywhere on the MSM about the millions slaughtered in Russia and who the perpetrators were, Walt? Does it not mean a damned thing to you who slaughtered those people? Never are you going to get the truth from the MSM. Thank God for the internet…..or no one would ever wake up!

              You enjoy your Nazi/Muslim fantasy while you can. You are in for a rude awakening, and soon.

              I do not support what happened in Germany, nor do I support any Muslims or their Sharia laws, but you do a search of the Noahide laws that are waiting in the wings. Makes Sharia look like childs play. Jewish Virtual Library would be a good start. Their own words.
              Another wake up call Public Law 102-14 Noahide Law in the US Congress.

              • Seriously granny? how can you know what you know about the ” tribe ” and not support what Hitler did ?

              • I don’t need anyone to tell me about the Bolshevik revolution. My in-laws parents lived through it.

                Fact: The Muslims sided with Hitler during WWII. My father-in-law lived in Iran (his family having been driven out of Russia by the Bolsheviks during the revolution)

                I’ve heard the words of those who witnessed what happened in the death camps. The revisionist history is a load of BS.

                There is nothing surprising about the anti-Semitic posts on this thread….it’s all been said before…almost word for word in Germany in the 1930’s.

                The enemy is not a race. The enemy is a philosophy that seeks to dominate and destroy people. And the last time I checked, EVERY race seems perfectly capable of doing that.

                Jew hating requires the mental IQ of a grape.

                • And while I’m at it….

                  I’m sick and tired of our veterans being trash talked. I had 5 uncles who fought Hitler and Tojo in WWII. They at the very lease sacrificed a part of their lives, and a couple of them were very nearly killed…..and witnessed things that no young person should ever have to see.

                  Those of you who think they were bad….or that what they were fighting for was evil….or that the actual good guys wore the other uniform…..can just go fuck yourselves.

                  (sorry…don’t usually use the language, but I believe it to be appropriate here)

                • This clueless clown has jew written all over him ^^^^. The reason Hitler teamed up with some muslims is because they had a COMMON ENEMY dumbass THE COMMUNIST JEWS.

      13. About a month after Benghazi I had heard some stories from the SF community that the reason the Ambassador was in Benghazi was to broker a deal between Turkey and the Syrian rebels to take possession of captured Libyan arms including shoulder fired SAMs. The story died, but it seems reasonable. Kind of sheds some light on the overall response by all parties involved, like Turkeys reluctance to get involved and Washington’s reluctance to act. Maybe even explains the shoot down of Malaysian Airlines. Georgian or Chechens getting a little trigger time…

      14. Ok we know that the Feds are involved with ISIS. They did us a us made rocket. Left over in Egypt. That is ok because I have and will use U.S. made 7.62X51, 45ACP, 30Carbines, 12 GA Shotgun, 9mm and 30-06 made by the same turds.
        I’ll worry about it if they use one in Ferguson.
        Sgt.

        • Hey Sarge

          It’s all about destabilizing the entire mid east and North Africa

          Utilizing proxy fighters(aka ISIS,FSA,PKS,etc)to do their dirty work..basically every sovereign nation that trades or threatens to trade outside the petro dollar..

          That’s why they don’t want us all armed..afterall they are destabilizing us as well via economic warfare..

          Same scenario..

          Same tactics..

          Enjoy the day

          possee

          • Possee:
            I will enjoy my Day! It is Veterans Day!(it is when I read this post)
            THANK YOU TO ALL THE VETS OUT THERE!!!!!!
            GOD BLESS YOU AND YOURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            Sgt.

      15. Watched Robert Fisk being interviewed last night. One quote that stuck was

        “The Free Syrian Army – only exists in Turkish coffee houses. They haven’t actively fought in Syria for over three years”.

      16. ISIS The invented boogie man to keep the bankers flush with war debtors.

      17. Shakespeare said, “All the world is a stage”.

        With the above in mind the official news and governmental explanations are either outright falsehoods or at a minimum ostensible in nature. The Government are the playwrights while the MSM are stage hands and directors.

        I wonder if the respective “Intelligence” communities hold private awards the the Motion Picture Association does in the Academy Awards? “Best False Flag War goes to”?

      18. Happy Veterans Day; this is going out from my heart to all my fellow veterans where ever you are. I was part of that Southeast Asian mess and not proud of some of the things I done. I know of four names that are not on the wall and will not be there ever, why; because we were some place that no one knew and was not supposed to be there doing what we were told to do. Yes they are all bankers’ wars and they are the only winners. They are all about GREED PEROID. As for myself I did not fight for the bankers’, I fought for my brothers beside me and absolutely no one else. The eight of us were as one, and now I’m the only one left and I’m not going to last much longer (C word). Having said all of that; would I do it again, NO QUESTION– YES I WOULD! I just hope that some of my skills can be put to good use and that I can go out fighting for the good cause now. Will we win, no, but you can know in the bottom of your heart that you fought the good fight. The sad thing is the Power Brokers’ will not taste the death they truly deserve, but it will be their pawns. Folks on every grave stone there start date and an end date and what we do in between (the dash) is our legacy make yours count. Enough said. HAPPY VETERANS DAY!!!

        NOMI/MOLON LABE!

        • Copperhead
          Semper Fi bother !

          “To every man upon this earth
            Death cometh soon or late.        
          And how can man die better
            Than facing fearful odds
          For the ashes of his fathers
            And the temples of his gods,”

          Semper Fi 8541

        • @Copperhead: I too would like to say “Thank you” to you and all the Vets on Mac’s site for ‘fighting the good fight’ …..for the rest of us. Also thinking of the ones that did not make it back home.

          Most of us on here….if not all, are certainly glad to be ‘part of your ‘DASH’….Have a Great day All, and take care, CC.

      19. Genius… I agree with your take. As a drafted Vietnam vet myself, I wish all fellow veterans a healthy and secure Veterans Day. I don’t glorify this day because of the lies that perpetuate ongoing endless wars against humanity. To serve in these wars is not to be revered as a glorious endeavor. The Vietnam war, as all wars were and are based on lies. There is not any nobility to be had for service or dying in these wars. The majority of American’s have been brainwashed to accept and support wars based on lies. James Madison, our 4th president said, “No nation could preserve it’s freedom in the midst of continual warfare”, and also, “If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy”. On the homefront George Orwell said, “Democrats and Republicans, both are war parties, that have stolen our liberties for over 100 years” and also, “Those of us ignorantly locked into the engineered left/right paradigm are being imprisoned in the very jails we refuse to recognize”.

        • Aljamo:

          And as usual we will be told by some to ignore what those “old” men said, even if the truth is staring us in the face!

      20. Don’t Thank Me for My Service

        http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/9320-dont-thank-me-for-my-service#14157228150891&action=collapse_widget&id=5855442

        “I do not want to appear disrespectful or ungrateful, but should we meet on the street one day, do say “Hello,” or “Fine day” or other such nicety, but please do not thank me for “my service” as a United States Marine. I make this request because my service, as you refer to it, was basically, either to train to become a killer or to actually kill people and blow shit up.”

        people are slowly waking up
        one by one

        • Satori..I posted a nice story about that exact topic 2 or 3 threads back and got red thumbed like crazy for it.

          • don’t worry about it puppy

            the truth is the TRUTH

            red thumbs be damned !!!

      21. Ah ha, the old, we supply and propogate the catalyst for WW3…..IsIs trick.

        TPTB are ratcheting up the NWO Progression thru the progressive and liberal mindset. Sheeple just follow along as the judhas goat leads.

        War in the middle east is here. War in middle Amerika, is coming soon.

        Wars,wars, and more rumors of wars. So, in staying with the topic of war……I would like to take this opportunity to publicly tip my hat and give a well deserved Thank You to all who have and are serving. The falesness and deceptive reasoning behind the wars doesn’t diminish the service of Americans that believed in fighting and killing to keep America FREE.

        My hat goes of to a great great uncle that served in WW1, a great uncle, in the army in WW2, and a 19 year old uncle that served on the front lines with the Marines (semper fi), in Nam, as he spent eight months in hell before stepping on a booby trap and losing the top of his foot.

        All dead and gone but not forgotten.

        I send a little shout out to ole tricky Dick for signing off on ending the Vietnam war, just months before my draft number was called, and my best friends number had been called and he was set to ship out to basic in less than a week.

        I never served, but give gratitude by opening up hunting and shooting property of mine, to any and all veterans with disabilities, in my area, last month. Hoping to make a more permanent year round opportunity for any and all veterans with disabilities to become “free” members and expand into all types of shooting sports, with varied hunting, and fishing options.

        May God Bless the veterans.
        pwtw

        • PWTW:

          Your posts are greatly appreciated and what you are doing for disabled vets needs a round of applause. Thanks!

        • Passin’—>

          May GOD bless you!

      22. It’s the other way around.Typical!

      23. Thank you Senator McCain. You served the Bolsheviks well in Viet Nam, earning the name “Hanoi John”. You worked tirelessly to ensure other POW’s remained in Communist hands. You were photographed posing with your jihadist buddies, working to oust Assad for Israel, Saudi Arabia, and a gas pipeline from Qatar to bypass Russian gas. Israel is waking up to the fact that it’s security is being sacrificed for Zionist dreams of world conquest. Yet, your zombie constituents still reelect you to office.

      24. ISIS is like Iran-Contra on ACID.

        Run out of a CIA-CENTCOM bunker in Jordan. Part of the Joint Strike Group in Qatar.

        The cover was blown when embedded AP reporter blabbed that the ISIS leader’s convoy had sophisticated CIA-NATO signals jamming and encryption dome traveling with them in Northern Iraq.

        ISIS is NATO in black tunics and masks. Nothing more. An irregular CONTRA ARMY run out of Washington.

        How many youtube videos do you have to see of dead ISIS fighters being displayed their fresh CIA passports and airline tickets from all over the planet funnelling them though Turkey, UAE and Qatar?

        Oh and one more thing, the dupes and patsys the CIA and Saudis has tricked in to fighting on behalf of Israel have to be some of the dumbest muslims on the planet.

      25. The Free Syrian Army (FSA) is, if still manned by true Free Syrians, a real force for the creation of individual liberty (which could not be allowed as a “dangerous” precedent– in the Middle East, of all places!) instead of the West’s man in Syria, Assad. THAT’s why the West created, staffs, funds and supplies “ISIS”–what is called “Daesh” by the disgusted Middle Easterners. “ISIS” is the Western elites’ false-flag used to (easily) confuse the go-along American public into chanting that Daesh (“ISIS”) and the Free Syrians are the same thing. That feeds into the (elitist-intended) misunderstandings of Americans, such as we see in the above article, who feel a need to trust those who rule over and exploit them–their government. The ongoing purpose of “ISIS” or Daesh, is to be used as another (“bad guy”) police force (not that the “good guy” police aren’t also bad–equipped by that same government with the same kind of stuff with which the powers-that-be have equipped “ISIS”) to both terrify Americans into going along with whatever the powers-that-be order the people to do “for their safety” and, to actually enforce by terror any orders that are not being complied with by the people (i.e., “see what happens when you deprive government of its ‘tools’ that ‘keep you safe'”, and other such propaganda to keep the people compliant).

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