Just because they’re not talking about it anymore doesn’t mean it’s over.
Hundreds have been killed in skirmishes between Ukrainian military forces and pro-Russian separatists in recent weeks and the ceasefire that has kept the Ukrainian (and Russian) militaries at bay and casualties relatively low given the circumstances has now come to a close, according to Ukraine’s western supported President Petro Poroshenko.
Poroshenko, citing the failure of rebel forces to disarm, says the Ukrainian army is now preparing an offensive to free border crossings and pockets of rebel held territory.
Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said he is halting a unilateral cease-fire in the conflict with pro-Russian separatists and says Ukrainian forces will go on the offensive against the rebels.
A statement from Poroshenko on his website early Tuesday said the cease-fire is being halted and that “we will attack and we will free our country.”
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Rebels did not comply with Poroshenko’s latest push to get them to turn over key border crossings with Russia and permit international monitoring of the cease-fire.
“The unique chance to put the peace plan into practice was not realized,” Poroshenko said in a speech prepared for delivery to the nation. “This happened because of the criminal actions of the fighters.”
Poroshenko did not make any claims to the contested region of Crimea, which is currently being presided over by Russian interests.
What remains to be seen is how Russian President Vladimir Putin will respond to Poroshenko’s military push. There are reportedly over one hundred thousand Russian troops deployed along the Ukranian border and reports as early as last month indicated that those units may be preparing a counter-offensive against the Ukranians in an effort to lend support to separatists in the region. On June 20th reports that Russian tanks had crossed into Ukraine sovereign territory raised fears that Putin was preparing an all out invasion.
The situation on Russia’s border remains fluid with no clear path to peace having been established. If anything, tensions have left the region at a breaking point. According to the President of Poland, who called up his country’s Army reserves for the first time in its history, the world sits on the brink of war.
President Obama, in a show of force and solidarity with the Ukranians, deployed several hundreds U.S. troops to Poland in April. The United States also leveled financial sanctions against top Russian diplomats and politicians that included asset forfeiture at western-friendly banks.
It was rumored that the United States may even go after the personal fortune of Vladimir Putin, a move that many have suggested would inevitably lead to an all out East/West confrontation.
Just days after that report Russian strategic bombers were spotted flying along the U.S. west coast. Coincidentally, air traffic control system in Southern California and several hundred miles inland were reportedly taken out of service at around the same time.
It is not clear where the United States stands on Ukraine President Poroshenko’s latest call for military strikes, nor can we see into the mind of Vladimir Putin and how far he is prepared to go to defend Russian interests not just from the Ukraine, but from western influence directly on his country’s border.
Will Putin invade Ukraine in response to Poroshenko’s call to arms? Or will he, as John Galt FLA noted, become the Obama of Eurasia?
Perhaps the real question is not whether Putin decides to invade the Ukraine. It’s how will President Obama respond if he does?
There can be no half measures taken should Russia respond to Ukraine’s halting of the ceasefire.
Russian and American media have both suggested that a confrontation between east and west would very quickly become a worst-case global scenario, with the end result being widespread thermo-nuclear warfare, an option that neither nation has taken off the table.
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I wouldnt be surprised to see Putin go in there and kick the ukraine military’s ass.
And Obama won’t do jack shit about it. He’s all talk.
“Eve Of Destruction”
The eastern world it is exploding
Violence flarin’, bullets loadin’
You’re old enough to kill but not for votin’
You don’t believe in war but whats that gun you’re totin’?
And even the Jordan River has bodies floatin’
But you tell me
Over and over and over again my friend
Ah, you don’t believe
We’re on the eve of destruction
Don’t you understand what I’m tryin’ to say
Can’t you feel the fears I’m feelin’ today?
If the button is pushed, there’s no runnin’ away
There’ll be no one to save with the world in a grave
Take a look around you boy, it’s bound to scare you boy
And you tell me
Over and over and over again my friend
Ah, you don’t believe
We’re on the eve of destruction
Yeah my blood’s so mad feels like coagulating
I’m sitting here just contemplatin’
I can’t twist the truth it knows no regulation
Handful of senators don’t pass legislation
And marches alone can’t bring integration
When human respect is disintegratin’
This whole crazy world is just too frustratin’
And you tell me
Over and over and over again my friend
Ah, you don’t believe
We’re on the eve of destruction
Think of all the hate there is in Red China
Then take a look around to Selma, Alabama
You may leave here for four days in space
But when you return it’s the same old place
The pounding of the drums, the pride and disgrace
You can bury your dead but don’t leave a trace
Hate your next door neighbor but don’t forget to say grace
And tell me
Over and over and over and over again my friend
You don’t believe
We’re on the eve of destruction
Mmm, no, no, you don’t believe
We’re on the eve of destruction
And a video to go along with the song made 7 years ago, but more relevant now than anytime in the past.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Akoukq5DvAE
I think I pointed out a few weeks/months back when this mess started, that Ukraine would eventually win this engagement. Putin does not want war. He has tried to move the rebel forces to the bargaining table for what???
For political power.
Under Ukrainian law as it is currently constituted, a Russian invasion of these contested areas would bring down every sanction from the West which would eventually lead to war.
Putin does not want war, or real sanctions that would cripple his regime. Putin wants Hegemony. Political hegemony. That can only be secured through negotiation and changes to the Ukrainian Constitution. War would destroy assets in Ukraine that Putin wants. Full blown sanctions would bring Russia to chaos. He is not ready financially for all out conflict with the West.
Why do you think people are trying to convene a Constitutional Convention in the United States? Its NOT because the government is following the Constitution; its because they want to legitimize their TREASON.
Engage My Peeps, or the nation you love will be flooded with foreigners, your right to keep and bare arms will be revoked, and as a Patriot you will be labeled a “malcontent”, or domestic terrorist”. 🙁
The US Constitution is OUR most powerful weapon. Demand its preeminence as the basis for law in America. 🙂
D.K.
Well.. we’ve seen potential conflicts fade away in Iran and Syria within the last year…and so will Ukraine.
Ukraine just agreed to a massive E.U. trade deal last Friday and have now signed their eventual, inevitable, servitude…and will become the new debt slaves of the central banks/central “unelected” authorities of the E.U…
The premise of a nuclear conflict and Obama reacting is but a dream..as the central planners on both sides utilize the predicable nuclear option all the time just to scare the the proles …
..meanwhile behind the scenes wrangling continues unbeknownst to the rest of us..
As far as flooded with foreigners D.K.,we’re already there by a long shot..with nearly (estimated )11-15 million illegals here already ..boots on the ground.!!
And now we have the new ‘humanitarian” effort ensuing by flying and housing untold thousands of so called “children’ into the country..it’s all a farce in my humble opinion..the feds were ‘soliciting” specialists over 6 months ago for this operation alone..
One last rebuttal…we already have been tagged and bagged as ‘malcontents” and domestic terrorists for quite some time…
And the so called SCOTUS has ignored the Constitution as well ..
I do not foresee a Constitutional based future at all as it has been systematically dismantled for years..and between the neo cons,statists, leftists, and corporate plunderers…it has been shredded to but a mere whisper of its former self..
Welcome to a brave new world indeed..
possee
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuzivska_gas_field
It will all start in Syria Possee, Have you not been following the ISIS, ISIL (all CIA backed) thing ?
Worldwide humanitarian vaccination projects are for depopulation
“Just a very few years ago, Bill Gates publicly declared before a live audience that using vaccinations strategically may help reduce the world population by 15 percent.
Many claimed it was a slip of tongue, like a verbal typo. The audience and mainstream media apparently ignored it.
However, actual worldwide events indicate that population control is part or the world vaccination agenda.”
http://www.naturalnews.com/045761_vaccination_polio_depopulation.html
There are a couple of Stargate SG-1 shows about vaccines my family recently watched on Netflix. The Ashien provide earth with “vaccines to wipe out disease.” They also discover these vaccines have irreversible side effects.
Stargate SG-1 Season 4, Episode 4 Title: 2010
Stargate SG-1 Season 5, Episode 10 Title: 2001
oh god…i think your tin foil hat is on too tight. i thought this broken record was thrown out a long time ago…anyways, ms conspiracy nut…that is not the topic of this discussion.
Amen, another voice from “the wilderness.”
Long weekend at home for me brother…adding more garden space, drinking a few beers, grilling some meat and hanging with my wife.
We have some major planning to do. If you haven’t seen the last 2 interviews of Chris Martenson and Gordon Long over at usawatchdog, I recommend you do. Pretty straight forward with little emotion. These guys do relentless research.
“don’t go down without one helluva fight’
“There is a great threat of nuclear war during an Olympic year… I see mile after mile of military tanks”. (This was written in the 1980’s).
I told you’ll before that things would heat up (violence/wars) around the time of Gemini (because of squares and oppositions involving Uranus (sudden explosions) and pluto (rules atomic bombs– very powerful explosions!) Well, it did. We just left Gemini.
Next period of equally tense and stressful placements (according to Astrology) is when the sun goes into Virgo. (21st of August until the 21st of September). Look for more anger/tension/aggression between US and Russia.
So far, Putin has kept his cool. I admired him and felt for him. However, everyone has their limits. Hopefully, all will be OK. But things definitely will heat up again during that period!
really…astrology…
what does the zodiac predict on my supper tonight?
crack-pot.
“Leftists??” did you forget that Bush started all this with the Patriot Act, DHS, and all the rest of the bs he could muster following Cheney’s 9/11 facilitation of the destruction of the world trade center??!
Furthermore, at Paul Craig Roberts’ website (as well as Global Research and other websites) there is frequent mention of the Neocons’ push toward Nuclear War. Please go to his website!
This is not about leftists or conservatives! This is about the Oligarths and Elites versus the rest of us (lower 99%)!!!
Posse: Eventually, Russia will invade Ukraine, but that is years away. Today, Ukraine will be assimilated into the EU, but the break-away “counties” will continue to press for autonomy.
Putin renounced his right to invade Ukraine because he knows that full blown sanctions would crush Russia, leaving him no choice but all out war. That’s why he wants a political settlement.
Russia cannot win a conventional war with the West and there are no winners in a nuclear conflict. 🙁
DK, I have to respectfully disagree with your point about Russia. All NATO nations’ standing armies combined, including the US, are no match for the Russian Bear. We’ve been shedding nukes like a dog sheds hair going back to the 70s with those treaties we signed with the USSR. Putin can stop the West cold with one nuke attack and it’s game over. Not one member of the EU will be willing to have their country BBQ’d for Obama and the globalists. Russia can win a conventional war with the West also. Obama is cutting our defense budget and the NATO nations don’t spend any more than 5% of the national budgets on defense. We’ve always provided the lion’s share of muscle for NATO since its creation in 1949. Russia has more manpower than they admit to having; also more nukes.
You mean, every sanction from the IMF western globalist banksters—you know, the same bunch that has US by the short hairs?
As far as Poroshenko is concerned:
Ukraine President Once Agent for U.S. State Department
by Michael Collins
Is he still working for his former masters in Washington, DC?
Two diplomatic messages from the WikiLeaks Public Library on U.S. Diplomacy indicate that newly elected President of Ukraine, Petro Poroshenko was an agent for United States State Department.
A confidential message from the U.S. Embassy in Kiev on April 29, 2006 mentions the newly elected Ukraine president twice ” During an April 28 meeting with Ambassador, Our Ukraine (OU) insider Petro Poroshenko emphatically denied he was using his influence with the Prosecutor General to put pressure on Tymoshenko lieutenant Oleksandr.”
”During an April 28 meeting with Ambassador, Our Ukraine (OU) insider Petro Poroshenkodenied that he was behind Prosecutor General Oleksandr Medvedko’s recent decision to issue an arrest warrant for Tymoshenko lieutenant Oleksandr Turchynov. ” [to] question him about the alleged destruction of SBU [Ukraine intel] files on organized crime figure Seymon Mogilievich.” [Russian Mafia Boss of Bosses]
–WikiLeaks Public Library of U.S. Diplomacy
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Ukraine-President-Once-Age-by-Michael-Collins-Agents_Petro-Poroshenko_Russia_State-Department-140609-372.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntLsElbW9Xo
Barry Mcquire 1965
I agree, BeInformed- as usual! We are on the eve of Apocalypse.
Is this Justin Bieber? The “twerker”maybe? Or someone from another time and place?
SO WHEN YOU’RE NEAR ME DARLING
CAN’T YOU HEAR ME, SKS
THE GUN YOU GAVE ME
NOTHING ELSE CAN SAVE ME, SKS
The United States CAN’T even secure it’s own Southern Border against a bunch of children. Please tell me how we strike fear and trepidation into the hearts of the Russians. President Vladimir Putin DOES control the borders of Russia. Poor President Obungle; he ALWAYS seems to pick the wrong side to align the United States with ……. to our obvious determent.
On a brighter note, President Obama’s approval ratings are absolutely ‘skyrocketing’ in and around the hamlet of Bugtussle, GA. Folks in this area are of the belief that the Obama Administration is making that of former President Jimmy Carter look positively PRESIDENTIAL. Ya got to hand it to President Obama; you have to work really hard at it to effect something like this.
Bye, bye Ms. American Pie; except for the crying part, it’s just about all over now.
Economist Martin Armstrong Warns Civil Unrest Is Rising Everywhere: “This Won’t End Pretty”
“The greatest problem we have is misinformation. People simply do not comprehend why and how the economic policies of the post-war era are imploding. This whole agenda of socialism has sold a Utopian idea that the State is there for the people yet it is run by lawyers following their own self-interest. The pensions created for those in government drive the cost of government up exponentially with time. The political forces blame the rich and this merely creates a class warfare with no resolution for the future. Even confiscating all the wealth of the so-called rich will not sustain the system. Consequently, we just have to crash and burn and start all over again.”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-28/martin-armstrong-warns-civil-unrest-rising-everywhere-wont-end-pretty
What they want in a global unrest, is for the stupid masses to fight EACH OTHER.
IF THE WORLD HAD A LICK OF SENSE, WE’D ALL UNITE AND TURN ON THE GLOBALISTS INSTEAD. They’d all be dragged out of their offices, palatial estates and bunkers around the world and HANGED from the nearest light pole.
We all need to redirect our misdirected anger, to where it belongs…at THE GLOBALISTS who are stealing our countries and wealth.
MadMarkie,
Speaking of our southern border…
Remember this? This is a few years old. If you have never seen it, take a look.
JOE LEGAL vs. JOSE ILLEGAL
You have two families: “Joe Legal” and “Jose Illegal”. Both families have two parents, two children, and live in California, Oregon and too many other states.
Joe Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.
Jose Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash “under the table”.
Ready? Now pay attention . . .
Joe Legal: $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00 per year.
Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; Joe Legal now has $31,231.00.
Jose Illegal: $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week, or $31,200.00 per year.
Jose Illegal pays no taxes. Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00.
Joe Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $24,031.00.
Jose Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the state and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.
Joe Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare. Joe Legal pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000.00 per year.
Joe Legal now has $18,031.00.
Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps and welfare. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.
Joe Legal pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $9,631.00.
Jose Illegal receives a $500.00 per month federal rent subsidy. Jose Illegal pays out that $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year.
Jose Illegal still has $ 31,200.00.
Joe Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for insurance. Joe Legal now has $7,231.00.
Jose Illegal says, “We don’t need no stinkin’ insurance!” and still has $31,200.00.
Joe Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc.
Jose Illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month.
Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.
Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.
Joe Legal’s and Jose Illegal’s children both attend the same school. Joe Legal pays for his children’s lunches while Jose Illegal’s children get a government sponsored lunch.
Jose Illegal’s children have an after school ESL program.
Joe Legal’s children go home.
Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.
Do you get it, now?
Liberalism at its finest.
KY Mom, I remember that story. Perfect example of a freeloader living on our tax dollars. We don’t owe the ‘gimmedat’ crowd a damned thing. They’re not ‘entitled’ to anything, period.
Land mine our southern borders,make it known that any illegals found in the USA will be executed…..then watch the illegals flee back to their third world POS village.
No, they’ll all march on Washington and riot in the streets, because their “rights” are being infringed upon.
Oblunder will sign another EO…
Iraq Gas Costs 5¢ Gallon Thanks To US Taxpayers – Read this:
http://rense.com/general53/tedx.htm
It’s really horrible whats happening over there! I go to the website “RT News” a lot and it breaks my heart to see what they are going through and knowing its because of my government! There is a video concerning a Russian journalist who was killed. If you haven’t watched it, please go there and see it– heart breaking!
However, it seems Putin is pulling back! The other day, he asked congress to pull back the forces and they voted to do that… so he says that Ukraine is a separate country and can do what they want but he is welcolming refugees who are coming to Russia for safety. That is all he is doing.
It’s only the bankster-owned U.S. lamestream media reporting otherwise. The sad part is, most sheeple in the U.S. actually believe that Russia is trying to dominate the world. In truth, that’s just the NWO globalists, dividing and conquering the stupid people.
I’ve known for quite some time that the depictions in the MSM, of Russia/Putin being evil, did not mesh with what I saw happening. For me, that was a big red flag.
There’s only one way to sort out the truth. We have to open our eyes and SEE what is going on and compare it with what is being said in the media…if the two don’t match, we have a problem.
Believe none of what you hear, and only half of what you see until you verify it. And above all, shut out everyone else’s opinions and form your own, based on what you see, think and know, not what you’re being told.
That’s how We, The People of The World will defeat the globalist elites.
During the so called, “cease fire” in Ukraine, a truck of people (men and women) went to collect their wounded from the government and suddenly, they were fired upon– shelling after shelling.
The video shows this bus driver holding his head with blood pouring down, but still driving the bus, trying to get his group of people to safety. I think it said he collapsed along the way and had to pull over. And the cameraman who was also shot… yet kept asking about his camera. He died.
All at RT news.
whay four fools voted this down? where in anons statement could you possibly disagree with??!?!?
Its gonna be a big mess…
It is this simple. Russia CANNOT and WILL NOT allow NATO to be right on 800 miles of Russian border with Ukraine. This would be Russian suicide. IF Putin doesn’t understand this, which of course he does, or allows this to happen, which he won’t. They would kill Putin or anyone else that would allow Russia to lose the war before even fighting a battle.
The Russians are not stupid people, they understand about Geography and the shear number of troops and military hardwar that would require policing the Russian Ukraine border because Ukraine was allowed to join NATO. Again, suicide. IF Russia was even considering this they would not be testing nuke missile after missile. they would be bending over and taking it from BO by agreements to all sorts of nuclear arms reduction. Russia is ONLY positioning themselves to be at the most advantageous place they can be. Then…………………..BOOM goes the nuclear weapons. 🙁
I guess if they go nuke, it’s OK, as long as I’m at ground-zero…
The world’s economy is collapsing. We know it, they know it and the banksters know it. So what to do? Well, the ONLY solution is to have a world war. It will eventually go nuclear and all the elites will be in their bunkers stocked for up to five years of survival. Their ultimate goal is to come out after about three years and rebuild the world into a “One World Government” with at least 90% of the world’s population dead. The government has stockpiled massive quantities of food, water, medical, etc for themselves and their families all across the U.S. in underground bunkers. When it goes nuclear the debris in the atmosphere will block the sun for about three years according to experts. In those three years most of life on the planet will cease to exist. This is what the banksters and elites are counting on. Hard to believe? Not really. Check out the Georgia Guidestones.
Russia lost 25 million people in WW II. No other nation or race, or ethnic group has lost so much to fascism, and to say that Russia is fascist is simply delusional. The many ethnic Ukrainians welcomed Hitler when he invaded. Look at what they got, Babi Yar and much more.
The whole presidential election was a FARCE. Now, this criminal post-coup government is killing civilians in south-eastern Ukraine. Maidan is not the whole Ukraine. South-east does not recognize the self-proclaimed government that ousted the free elected president Yanokovich. Besides, the new government is full of radical ultra-nationalists and neo-fascists. Poroshenko was/is an Agent for U.S. State Department. In short, he is a billionaire oligarch and NWO/Western puppet.
The people fighting over there know what he is, even if we in the west do not.
According to Paul Craig Roberts and others (nuclear experts), there will be no sunlight for 10 YEARS after a nuclear explosion… NO FOOD FOR 10 YEARS– CAN YOU DO IT?! ;(
I’ve got front row seats just a few miles from NORAD
If the Russians go nuclear,it would bring back the population demographics of the 1950’s. The hoards of career EBT,Section 8 Housing,HUD,WIC check, AFDC,SNAP,medicade moochers would be reduced by 85 or 90
percent. Jobs would be plentiful as we would rebuild, clean up, and restore the US. Why every major US city has swarms of ghetto areas that are dependant on the largess of the American tax payer………..
A limited nuclear war might be survivable and bring our politicals back to reality.
“A limited nuclear war might be survivable and bring our politicals back to reality.”
So would a little SANITY and JUSTICE, with a whole lot less INNOCENT blood on our hands.
Nato/US do not understand how paranoid Russia is about their borders and especially about the the presence of a significant military force near it.
My personal opinion is that this can get real nasty: For Ukraine.
NATO/US does indeed understand Russia and her borders…and, is it really just paranoia, when they actually ARE out to get you?
Want to see messy, Wait till the Newest American Revolution get underway. No doubt I will get my licks in. lol Do or Die!! How about you?
No offense, doll,but How is this article
relevant?
I’ll tell you what is relevant.
The fact that our US commander-n-thief has sent 500 of our military personnel into Iraq. WTF?
We don’t want, or need, another Iraq/Vietnam war.
Putting more Americans in harms way in a country where we don’t have any business, is like pissing on a forest fire.
Instead of sending Americans there, we should be bringing all Americans “out” of Iraq, and leaving those idiots to do what they do best; kill each other.
Obummer should have sent 500 solders to the U.S. Southern Border to turn away the invading Scofflaws. Tell me what the words “National Defense” has to do with sending more US Troops to the slaughter house of Iraq? Corporations like Exxon and BP should hire and pay for their their own defense forces, unlike the tax payer funded scam we have today.
Dont you just admire the community organizer in chief doublespeak, I recall the lie spewed forth from his sour mouth stating he was going to send 200 advisors to iraq but now the numbers multiple to 800 confirmed troops in Iraq.
Thats the goal, send the americans to die while inviting illegal aliens into a sovereign USSA, ooops USA. Coward Piven at work so please go back to sleep and pay them taxes.
Too man crack pies.
TTC, if you can’t or won’t see the importance of this article, then you need to throw in the towel. Let them have at each other. The US does not need to be involved in any more wars, period.
Who’s your guy? Putin or Obozo? Now that’s a choice for the ages.
David…In my opinion it does not matter.Obama and Putin are joined at the hip.Would not surprise that Obama gets his orders fro Putin.In fact I would almost bet on it.
David, I don’t have any dog in this fight. the US needs to stay out of it and back off from Russia. Obama will get this nation destroyed if he’s not stopped.
http://www.thetrumpet.com
this is just a chess game for putin. watch as he strategically put all his pieces in place.
check mate U.S.A
Yes Putin is Playing Chess, while Obummer is playing Checkers Yelling “King Me!!”
The American public is sick of political statements made by war and by politicians that are mental midgets.
Obama is a stupid moron if he thinks getting involved is a good idea.
I am ready for the mid-terms.
Effing demotards are wearing on my last nerve
RE: “Effing demotards are wearing on my last nerve”
As if the other wing of the same bird of prey is any different?
Typical libtard BS…..It goes something like – “they’re all the same so leave Barry(Obama) alone.”
Working together…against us, with a fake front of being separate
they came together to be a two headed beast feeding off of our tax dollars to a point of total annihilation of those that have fed them for so long..talk about biting the hands that fed them
Putin will probably sit back and watch the Ukrainians waste ammo, supplies and resources and then move in for the kill. He’s not a total slouch in military terms. Our fearful ‘leader’ on the other hand…
The problem with Putin attacking the Ukraine is, once he does, NATO have the excuse they’ve been waiting for to attack Putin. All we’ll hear is the MSM screaming that Putin is worse than Hitler …. Putin is evil ….. Putin must be stopped …… Putin is a despot. It’ll be the same bullshit rhetoric we heard for Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria. Folks, don’t get fooled into another bullshit war. Western Bankers want a massive war to kick start the US and EU economies.
If Putin wants any chance to win, against the onslaught from NATO and the US, which would follow if he attacked Ukraine, he needs to attempt the impossible ……. If he rolls the dice, he needs to attack the whole of Europe. If he just attacked Ukraine, he’s lost before he starts. A surprise attack on Europe would give him 30-60 days headstart before the US and NATO could respond adequately.
This really is “A game of Thrones” moment for the world. This century already belongs to China and Russia (and BRICS) The only way the US will remain Top Dog this century, is if we go to war to remove our opposition to world control ….. And win!! The US reserve currency is already dead and buried. The West only has one option left, and we are living it!!
Should Putin invade the Ukraine, there will be the usual political dog and pony show, the usual threats, calls for a diplomatic solution to end the crisis, the calls for sanctions, ect ect will be made.
The reality is that no a damn thing will be done. NATO will do nothing except made threats. Germany will not go to war with Russia, they did that twice. Britan will not go to war Russia, they lack the martial will and balls to go to war. Europe likes to stay warm in the winter. Enough said.
The former USA, will not go to war with Russia. This imperial country is a world power in decline and every one knows it. Even our enemies. Our military is over worked and exhausted. The country is broke/bankrupt. We can not supply the material needed for war against a well armed credible foe like Russia. Lastly the Government of the former USA is too busy with its soft war against the citizens of the former USA.
None of us would be talking about SHTF, were it not a very real possiblity in the near future. We all know it will happen, when and what form it will take being the topics of conversation.
Also let us not forget that other nations have their own agenda and will ally themselves with any nation if they think it is in their best interest. China will shaft us in a nano second, if they profit from it.
Cede paints a picture which reminds me very much of Hitler and Germany in 1939. He was menaced by western capitalism, ie the usury of the jews, from within, and equally by the same thing from over in the godless Soviet Union. Which of course, should anyone still be unaware, was created by jewish bankers, and Jakob Schiff in particular, operating out of NYC.
He was thus in a jewish vice from within, and from either side of the Atlantic. Jews of course having had full control over US policy, both domestic and foreign, since they instituted their scheme to steal your wealth with the passage of the Federal Reserve Act in 1913.
Churchill facilitated the plan by accepting the sum of £40,000 in 1936 from the jewish chairman of Shell Oil; from that moment on he called for the destruction of Germany, as his forebears had done in the run-up to WW1.
Churchill’s mother was Jenny Jerome.
These antichrists cannot stop their totalitarian machinations. Their official state policy is encapsulated in the so-called Samson Option, which declares their willingmness to take the entire world out if necessary in a nuclear conflagration.
I have certain doubts about Israeli nuclear capability, however; sometimes the belief that people have about your power are more potent than actually having that power.
We see here a classic case for the involvement of the UN.
Global interests are not served by everybody being incinerated by conventional or nuclear weapons. Thus the world response should be to enforce a settlement on the clearly illegitimate Ukraine government, which involves a splitting of the so-called nation into its two essential ethnically-based halves. Into neither half should NATO be allowed to penetrate; this would be a massively destabilizing influence upon Russian security concerns.
The fact that the UN is not involving itself with this monumental issue speaks volumes about its hidden agenda; which can be best summarized by noting that it seeks chaos, out of which it hopes for the rising up of a New World Order, run by an elite of bankers and so-called intellectuals, in other words the Rockefeller-Kissinger-Rothschild axis of evil.
As the Security Council is not commenting on the situation; the implication therefore is that all its constituent members are operating according to this same agenda.
The jackasses of the world can’t wait to start a global blowout that will end everything. People are so stupid. God must be shaking his head at our insanities. I doubt we will survive another 20 years. You can run but you cannot hide. Lol.
OFF TOPIC
Fellow Preppers, please spread he word on this story. This not the America I wan to live in:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/06/30/Democrat-Pastor-Accuses-Thad-Cochran-Campaign-Of-Vote-For-Pay-Scheme
BigB
The irony is that the Cochran campaign promised to reimburse him for buying Democrap votes, them welched on him. Talk about “the stupid, it BURNS!”.
Well as the days go by we will be putting the piece together and starting to see what really happens and if we are that closer to a breakdown across the world. We will not be attacked that is a given. We might get false flags or a bunch of crazy’s that do some damage here, but its going to be very interesting with These countries trying to BS each other and make deals and the lies and mistrust between all these nations over-there. I just feel a bit for the people that are living there and have no option due to dipshits in the world that always want to control people.
RE: “I just feel a bit for the people that are living there and have no option due to dipshits in the world that always want to control people.”
Things are the same the world over?
Also, RE: “We will not be attacked that is a given.”
Why is that, ‘a given’? That seems like such a historically erroneous thing to say.
The Next Global Meltdown Is Baked In: Connecting The Dots Between Oil, Debt, Interest Rates And Risk
“There are two words for what happens when real income declines and interest payments rise: impoverishment and insolvency. This dynamic is scale-invariant, meaning it works the same for individuals, households, enterprises and governments.
Let’s connect the rising cost of oil to debt. As we all know, oil matters because it’s the foundation of our economy, and the cost of oil is built into virtually every sector in some way.
…the cost of food rises and declines in lockstep with the cost of oil.”
“The bottom line is the Fed can only keep the machine duct-taped together by suppressing the market’s pricing of risk.
Suppressing the market’s ability to price risk is throwing common-sense fiscal caution to the winds; when risk arises from its drugged slumber despite the Fed’s best efforts to eliminate it, we will all reap what the Fed has sown.”
Zerohedge
Direct link…
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-01/next-global-meltdown-baked-connecting-dots-between-oil-debt-interest-rates-and-risk
OFF TOPIC: I have been dabbling in the production of alchohol (a prep I think will be important). Last year Aug 31 I bottled my first meade…a 3 LBS 1 gallon batch. I am sipping on this right now. I just wanted to say how easy it is to make this stuff but you have to let it sit for a few months to age it well. so heres the recipe. 3 LBS local honey ( boil it till it smells like roasted marshmellows) add a gallon of spring water and let cool to around 70 degrees. add Cote De Blance yeast or even brewers yeast from the grocery store and put into a gallon jug with an air lock ( a ballon with a tiny hole will work) after about a week (maybe longer ) your airlock will deflate or stop bubbling. transfer to another jug, wait a month and transfer again ( do this 3 times) then bottle and wait a min of 8 months…you now have a valuable trade item…if you raise bees you have an unending supply…;)
Back in the nineties, a friend of mine got a good deal on some mixed honey and made up a batch in a fifty gallon barrel.
He later took that batch of unfiltered meade/honey wine, and used a borrowed still (all stainless) and ran off some of the best tasting “honey brandy” one has ever poured over the taste buds.
Talking about a smooth before/after dinner drink. I was privy to a couple quarts.
Who would red thumb a post like this?
jealousy reared its ugly head , more then likely
sounds Delicious!
I started 15 gallons of homemade raspberry wine last week end.
36 lbs of fruit and 33 lbs of sugar so far.
Let the battle of the fruit fly’s begin!
I forgot the handful of raisins before the airlock. So it needs raisins to feed the yeast.
If you really want to know what is going on in Ukraine, start here:
http://www(dot)informationclearinghouse(dot)info/article38956.htm
The go take a look at this:
http://vineyardsaker(dot)blogspot(dot)com.au/
The article is riddled with USANGLOZIONIST propoganda and blatant nonsense.
Poroshenko has been using the ceasefire to resupply and reorganise his genocidal ethnic cleansing and civilian bombardment forces. Time for a war crimes tribunal before Obullshit and the cult of American Exceptionalism destroys another country.
The hell with them. Let ’em kill one another.
We’ve got enough problems with the goats that are flooding across the border. Damn things shit where they eat and sleep. Just so you know if you haven’t seen it yet, O’hominey in his upcoming executive order, plans on pulling all federal LEOs off the border. Now the goats ain’t such a big problem anymore. Might want to think about what may go BOOM coming across.
If he pulls LEO’s off the border, it will be because there is someone or something he wants brought to our country to get in unnoticed.
The whole border thing reeks of bad stuff in the works that have been planned well in advance.
Ukraine seems to be more of a distraction point. Russia can have it at the drop of a hat. They have the manpower, the hardware, and the backing of the Russian people. None of that is in Obama’s court.
He damned near has. Just read that 70% of Border Patrol agents are changing diapers, leaving troop strength on the border at 30%
@PO’d … They’re just emulating our erstwhile employees at the EPA (shit where they eat and sleep)
https://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/shock-epa-employees-asked-to-stop-defecating-in-office-hallways_06262014.
You have to ask yourself. Is surrounding Russia for containment the goal? Or something more serious/devious like war to cover a financial collapse and lead to population reduction.
If the later, then US/EU Western Bankers are going to push until war happens anyway.
I want to think that preserving the independence of Ukrainians is the goal. Ukraine suffered massive genocide at the hands of Russians during the Stalin era. You can’t blame them for not wanting Russians in any position of power in their country, under any pretext.
I don’t think Putin will do anything. The basic reality is this: most Russians enjoy being part of the world and being able to travel and do business where ever. Putin needs to keep most Russians onside to keep his regime going. Thus Putin will avoid hot war and instead wage silent war: economic warfare, spying, social warfare (anything to run down the US and the West).
Putin walks a fine line: most Russians want to be freer and to get wealthier. A hot war with the US via Ukraine would destroy all of that.
The key indicator of how bad things may get is air routes. Air routes tell you the truth as to when there will be real conflict and war. We have governments all over the world that call each other names and threaten each other but planes will safely take off from one to the other every day. That shows you the threats are all show – a piece of theater worthy of Broadway. If the air routes get disrupted or shut down, then that’s hot war. Even that can be a head fake: the British famously let a British Airways flight go to Kuwait when they knew Saddam was going to invade that day. Why did they sacrifice all those passengers? Because there were teams of SAS aboard who needed to get into the country to start target spotting. Your life is meaningless on the big chess board.
As you may or may not, know; TPTB/world leaders/banksters don’t think like rational people.
They “say” what the people/sheeple want to hear but they “do” what puts more $$$/power on their side, regardless of how it affects the citizens.
I remember Charles Krauthammer, saying on Fox News at the beginning of Odrama’s presidency, “Pay attention to what he does, not what he says”.
What he, Odrama, “does”, is continually bring America down, and what he “says”, is just “blowing smoke” up sheeple’s ass.
If Odumbo is orchestrating what is happening, he is a hell of a lot smarter that we have given him credit for. It is hard to believe that he is anything but a Pinochio puppet.
Who ever it is, what ever it is, controlling what is going on is beginning to succeed.
My only sincere hope is that THEY are in the first strike zone. Justice would be served.
The common man can only pray and prep.
@everyone…All I keep hearing in my head is….”99 Red Balloons….”
Hey! Who gave me the red thumb for a great, old ’80’s song?
Npgh
I thing that song SUCK, but I didn’t give you a red thumb.
Sgt.
Government Stops Glenn Greenwald from Publishing His Big Snowden Revelation … But Others Will Release ALL of the Snowden Documents to Prevent a War
http://www.blacklistednews.com/Government_Stops_Glenn_Greenwald_from_Publishing_His_Big_Snowden_Revelation_…_But_Others_Will_Release_ALL_of_the_Snowden_Documents_to_Prevent_a_War/36316/0/38/38/Y/M.html
to Prevent a War ???
Is Joe Biden’s son still working for the Ukraine’s gas company? Do you think that situation will influence US policy?
Good observation…because that is what it is all about. These tensions are caused by control of hydrocarbons. Ukraine has some very promising shale fields that the International Oil Companies want to steal. Hunter was no doubt put there to form policy for Empire.
They are also after the three “Baby Giants” known as Azerbejan (sp), Turkmenistan and Khazakistan for their hydrocarbons. It’s been “think tanked” to death.
Russia is the biggest hydrocarbon producer in the world and the bankrupt EU is beholden to them for gas. The western Empire is not suited with this arrangement, since he who controls the most hydrocarbons makes the rules…thus you once again have Russia declared an enemy of “democracy and human rights”.
lol…don’t fall for it people…
It’s their Nation, if they want a Civil war, and Russia goes in. So be it. We should stay out of it. If Russia goes into a NATO Nation. That is another topic to discuss on a later date.
I know that the Germans did the same thing in the 30’s. They didn’t have the capability to wipe out the Human race as we know it. Russia dose. Giving aid to the Ruling party in Ukraine is OK, but that is it. Maybe that is why we bought up all the AK mags, and 7.62X39 ammo last year?
Aim Small Miss Small
Sgt.
Honesty always appreciated.
wars and rumors of wars….
Kunstler: Voila World War Three
http://peakoil.com/publicpolicy/kunstler-voila-world-war-three
“Whoever really runs things these days for the semi-mummified royal administration down in Saudi Arabia must be leaving skid-marks in his small-clothes thinking about Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and his ISIS army of psychopathic killers sweeping hither and thither through what is again being quaintly called “the Levant.”
h t t p://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/07/government-stops-glenn-greenwald-from-publishing-his-big-snowden-revelation.html
first four letters remove the spaces
1. Ukraine owes Russia for gasoline. Lets see if our leaders offer to pay up with US taxpayer dollars for a temporary ally. 2. Joe Biden son works for a gas company in the Ukraine. 3, These people are so corrupt they don’t try to hide it any more. 4. The US taxpayer and our children will pay for this political stupidity.
Saw a forum from the Wilson Center (foreign policy think tank) on CSPAN where they laid out the objectives of Empire in Ukraine and the near east.
They plan on taking Ukraine shale production for EU use and forcing austerity on the people by IMF guidelines for subsidy cuts to their gas usage. They say Ukrainians use “too much gas”.lol… They basically said that if subsidy cuts and efficiency wasn’t put into place and a payment made to Russia for gas, the Ukrainian people would probably freeze this winter.
Ukraine must be opened up to “trade reforms” and “modernization”. This means they must allow Western corporations in to steal their resources.
American debt will be collected with fire.
While we were staring at Iraq and Ukraine in the news the government decided it was a good time to stick it to college grads, again. They are going to increase the number of foreign immigrant IT workers by 200%. They claim there is a shortage. But the pay scale has been flat lined for ten years, indicating a surplus of educated American applicants for those jobs. Third world immigrant IT workers get paid less than half of what American workers get paid. The US Chamber of Congress is anti-American. Put them on the “list”.
Yep….
When I first started Cisco training, CCNA’s and CCNP’s could pretty much write their own ticket. By the time I finished my training, there were CCNP’s washing cars because they couldn’t get a job in the industry.
I once answered an ad for ENTRY LEVEL support and when I went for the interview, there were about 75 people lined up for it. I’m not kidding.
There is no shortage of qualified people in IT. What there is a shortage of, is IT people who will work for “fruit-picker’s wages”.
That’s why they are doing this.
It is the MISSION of the elites to reduce the middle-class to poverty. The egalitarian’s goal is to make everyone equally miserable.
Bill Gates and Microsoft were at the forefront of this. Gates was providing virtually free IT education to people in India, Pakistan, Indonesia and the Philippines. I had to pay for mine on my own.
Screw the globalists. All of them are on my list. And I will personally relish the opportunity to put the noose around all their necks.
Walt—I read an article a few years ago.
HR AND attorneys were being trained to receive applications, conduct interviews of Americans and trained how to REJECT them for whatever reason!
Think I’m making this up?? Research!!
I hope every one of those fricking HR gals and guys and attorneys are paying for that through unemployment–what goes around…; if not now, later!!
http://townhall.com/columnists/chuckcolson/2006/01/03/a_new_years_dream_nightmare_or_prophecy/page/full
Putting it all into perspective………………………..
The following is all you need to know about government bureaucracy:
1) Pythagorean theory………………………………………………… 24 words
2) The Lord’s Prayer…………………………………………………… 66 words
3) Archimedes Principle……………… ……………………………… 67 words
4) The Ten Commandments……………………………………….. 167 words
5) The Gettysburg Address………………………………………….. 286 words
6) The Declaration of Independence……………………………. 300 words
7) The U.S. Constitution (w/all 27 Amendments)………….7,818 words
8) U.S. government regulations on the sale of cabbage….26,911 words
You can easily judge a man , by how he treats those who can do nothing for him
-James D Miles
@VRF,
Yup, same advice I have given to my daughters regarding dating. Most guys will want to be on their best behavior in how they treat their date. But if you want to see the guy as he really is, observe how he treats the “little people”, the unimportant ones, as the cashier in the check out line. That is the real guy.
With all the fuses that are now alight, no telling which one will reach the powder keg first. Just prepare for the explosion it will be HUGE NO DOUGHT!
To all that are expressing preparing tips THANKS!
River Rat at the ready!!! NOMI///MOLON LABE!
I woke up this morning around 5 am, and can’t shake this feeling that all hell is about to break loose. Not just over there, but here. Just a gut feeling.
Patriot Mom,
I understand that feeling. It is like waiting for the other shoe to drop.
I read the financial news every day. The economic forecast is NOT good. It is going to get much worse. Sadly, so few are prepared.
We realize that it is not if, but when.
Every day is a gift. Live, laugh, pray and hug your loved ones.
I look at my low-nuke-information family, friends and associates, and recall the modified Kipling: “If you can keep your wits about you while everyone else is losing theirs, maybe you haven’t heard the news…”
And one of these days-weeks-months all of us will be losing it…
Tribe puppets, Obama and Cameron, will tell Putin that a Russian attack on Kiev will be considered an attack on Washington or London. That will allow the ethnic cleansing of Russians to continue
The nuke attack on the USA won’t be announced beforehand.
In the meantime, Obama will push ahead with his ISIS destabilizations of Iraq, Syria and the southern border of the US.
Until then we will all float on like in that Modest Mouse song.
Willy Wonkenstein a khazar ‘jew’ is about fulfill his bloodlust…is anyone surprised?
-flek
Well… like Samuel L. Jackson said in Jurassic Park-
“Hold on to your butts…”
NATO is getting involved in the Ukraine crisis. That should work out well. NOT!
Air Force Gen. Philip M. Breedlove, the Supreme Allied Commander of NATO’s Allied Command Operations, announced Monday the United States will send troops “to help respond to Russian aggression in Ukraine,” according to McClatchy.
“It’s a very momentous time in Europe, probably the most since the end of the Cold War, especially because of the recent changes wrought by Russia,” Breedlove said from the Pentagon.
“In this operation, we will continue to demonstrate our continued commitment to the collective security of NATO and dedication to the enduring peace and stability in the region, in light of the Russian intervention in Ukraine specifically,” the four star general explained.
Breedlove claims Russia has supplied separatists with anti-aircraft weaponry, tanks, personnel carriers and other heavy weapons. He said there’s “a very good likelihood” that Russian anti-aircraft artillery was used to shoot down a Ukrainian transport plane June 14.
“Russian irregular forces are very active inside eastern Ukraine,” Breedlove said. “Russian-backed forces are active inside eastern Ukraine. And Russian financing is very active inside eastern Ukraine.”
Russia has denied the accusations. “It’s all nonsense, there are no special units, special forces or instructors in the east of Ukraine,” Russian President Vladimir Putin said in April.
Breedlove made his announcement hours before new violence broke out after a cease-fire expired.
“The active phase of the counterterrorism operation resumed this morning,” the chairman of Ukraine’s parliament, Oleksandr Turchynov, told legislators. “Our armed forces are hitting the bases and outposts of terrorists.”
Putin criticized the resumption of military action by the Poroshenko government in Kyiv.
“Unfortunately, President Poroshenko has resolved to resume military action,” Putin said during a Moscow meeting of Russian ambassadors. “We failed to convince him that the road to a secure, stable and inviolable peace cannot lie through war.”
conspiracy theories, religion, astrology…one thing we’re missing in this thread is ouiji board predictions…who wants to do it?
yes no goodbye.
justcrawlbackinyourhole, worm.
those who say obama would be scared to act is not thinking like an american. obama would be more scared to do nothing and seem like a coward to his people. if history serves as a reminder, it’s that americans love to play the hero…and if SHTF it’s that kind of attitude that will start up a whole mess of sh1t, especially this time.
russia, NK, china are just fking waiting…and this is exactly the type of diversion they’ve been waiting for. while NA troops have been thinning out all over the globe, this is the worst time for america to be playing world police.
mark my words. if america jumps into this…they’re finished.